New firmware v2.0.34 version for ZIDOO X9S release

Time to a new update for x9s, I hope this month will come

 

Mine is local content. Every other device plays perfectly including the PC. No issues pulling it down at 100MB/s to the PC.

Only the X9S has buffering issues. Very weird.

 

How often do you see this pause / buffering issue? Any type of files or just specific encoding / size?

 

It varies. Anywhere from a stutter every 3-4 minutes to every 10-15.

So far mostly noticeable with UHD rips (so higher bitrate stuff). Jumanji is 43Mb/s and The Hunt for Red October is 40Mb/s. Both are ripped discs with makemkv.

 

I just tested recent Purge movie Web-Dl 3.5GB. First stutter at about 5min 30s.
I'm sure this file would play perfect on my RPi and PC.

Video encoding
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate : 4 618 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 802 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.125
Stream size : 3.14 GiB (92%)
Title : The.First.Purge.2018.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT
Audio : 384 kb/s, 48.0 kHz, 16 bits, 6 channels, AC-3

 

so after i tried JW (2018) 1080p hevc 10bit, i dont see or notice any stutter, or maybe my eyes not that capable to catch it

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L4@Main
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 8 min
Bit rate : 1 858 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.050
Stream size : 1.66 GiB (46%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited

 

@godalmighty you are not going to find stutter issue on larger files, HEVC, 10 bit and 4K. On occasion you may notice single skipped frame at the beginning of the new scene. Based on your TV type and motion processing it could be difficult to spot.

The really obvious stutter issue is present in smaller files 3 to 5GB, 720 and 1080p Web-Dl mp4, 8 bit. Almost all of those files will have stutter with firmware.34 repeating every 4 to 5 minutes. The example is here:
forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/new-firmware-v2-0-34-version-for-zidoo-x9s-release.10134/page-17#post-44803

 

@3DBuff
yes what i tested it with very small file size but sure it was HEVC 10bit and i never used motion interpolate in my tv setting coz i dont like SOE

General
Unique ID : 56295490787717737947896905938180226810 (0x2A5A1DFD299DAF57E7ABDB9AA8B7BEFA)
Complete name : E:\Torrent\Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom (2018) 10bit\Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom (2018).mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 3.60 GiB
Duration : 2 h 8 min
Overall bit rate : 4 015 kb/s
Movie name : Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom (2018)
Encoded date : UTC 2018-09-17 09:01:32
Writing application : mkvmerge v25.0.0 ('Prog Noir') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9 / Lavf58.17.100

Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L4@Main
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 2 h 8 min
Bit rate : 1 858 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.050
Stream size : 1.66 GiB (46%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2 h 8 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 26 ms
Stream size : 587 MiB (16%)
Writing library : Lavc58.19.104 ac3_fixed
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2 h 8 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.35 GiB (38%)
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Text
ID : 4
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on DVDs
Duration : 2 h 7 min
Bit rate : 9 705 b/s
Count of elements : 1771
Stream size : 8.82 MiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

ooh you mean in small size hevc 10bit do not show any stutter, what a relieved
all my tv show in small size too, 720p but still using hevc codec in 8bit depth, never notice any stutter too

 

Try The First Purge from my post above if you want to see it. File name included in codec info.

 

ok i will try it

my friend just lend me his X20pro to test
wow it was huge box and heavy too
will test it too with The.First.Purge.2018.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT

 

I think only Advanced Video Codec with High@L4 encoding is stuttering.
High@L4.1 and above is ok.
My guess its a realtek 1295 hardware problem.

 

I don’t remember running into this issue on firmware.25
I think it’s software related introduced with .34. Somebody from Zidoo comented that they tried to fix 23.976fps that everybody was complaining about. I think that did it.

 

I don't know if it is profile related but had similar problems and the culprit was.... the encoding program!
To be more specific, I tried to encode a series 10 1080p/HEVC/10bit (I didn't change the frame rate) with an iffmpeg based program. The result was unwatchable!!
It was like seeing a movie from a cctv capture on 15Fps or lower, frames jumping around, it was totally crap! I the used the Handbrake (same parameters) and finally had a watchable movie.
So I'm saying that all this stuttering specific issue, may be encoder related.
Just my thought

 

Probably not. Most of the movies 720 and 1080 marked Web-Dl will stutter with Zidoo and firmware.34. They play just fine on PC Kodi and RaspberryPi.

 

I had stutter every 12 minutes with all web-dl movies since fw1.4.16.
I have mention it many times with other fw`s.

I am waiting for godalmighty`s results with the 1296 chip.
If thats working ok its obvious why they made it.

 

@Ekul interesting let us know your findings with the new chip.

 

The first issue is most likely the strong stutter on Web-Dl files that we are talking about. There is series of frames missing and video is stuttering for about a second. Sample slow motion video is here:
http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?thr...or-zidoo-x9s-release.10134/page-17#post-44803
This makes the movie unwatchable. In my case it will repeat itself every 4.5 min. There are no other options on Zidoo to watch those movies. Kodi player is useless. It skips frames all the time. You need different box player or at least PC to finish watching.

Second issue described as 23.976 -> 23.98 is mainly random single frame drops typically around 4 to 6 times per movie at the beginning of the new scene. It is rare enough not to spoil the movie and easy to ignore.

True 3D frame packing does not exhibit any frame related issues.

 

so i have tested it
The.First.Purge.2018.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT

Code:

General
Unique ID                   : 233525805548574991590423839784462336039 (0xAFAF6F25B8617D93CF8C24EB46664027)
Complete name               : E:\MOVIES\The.First.Purge.2018.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT.mkv
Format                      : Matroska
Format version              : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                   : 3.41 GiB
Duration                    : 1 h 37 min
Overall bit rate            : 5 004 kb/s
Movie name                  : The.First.Purge.2018.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT
Encoded date                : UTC 2018-09-18 05:14:29
Writing application         : mkvmerge v26.0.0 ('In The Game') 64-bit
Writing library             : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9
Cover                       : Yes
Attachments                 : small_cover_land.jpg / cover.jpg / cover_land.jpg / small_cover.jpg

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : AVC
Format/Info                 : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile              : High@L4
Format settings             : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC      : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames   : 5 frames
Codec ID                    : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                    : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate                    : 4 618 kb/s
Width                       : 1 920 pixels
Height                      : 802 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 23.976 (23976/1000) FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Scan type                   : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.125
Stream size                 : 3.14 GiB (92%)
Title                       : The.First.Purge.2018.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H264-FGT
Language                    : English
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No
Color range                 : Limited
Color primaries             : BT.709
Transfer characteristics    : BT.709
Matrix coefficients         : BT.709

wow finally i can easily notice the stutter it randomize i think
i asked my friend and they usually dont recomend the FGT release coz there are too much stuuter and laggy they said
then i try download the hevc version
The.First.Purge.2018.720p.WEB-DL.2CH.x265.HEVC-PSA

Code:

General
Unique ID                   : 50673826494415356678026454724022939707 (0x261F6C8A3AF8567794EA3A61845CB03B)
Complete name               : E:\Downloads\Compressed\The.First.Purge.2018.720p.WEB-DL.2CH.x265.HEVC-PSA.mkv
Format                      : Matroska
Format version              : Version 4 / Version 2
File size                   : 736 MiB
Duration                    : 1 h 37 min
Overall bit rate            : 1 056 kb/s
Movie name                  : PSArips.com | The.First.Purge.2018.720p.WEB-DL.2CH.x265.HEVC-PSA
Encoded date                : UTC 2018-09-18 09:48:52
Writing application         : mkvmerge v26.0.0 ('In The Game') 64-bit
Writing library             : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9

Video
ID                          : 1
Format                      : HEVC
Format/Info                 : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile              : Main@L3.1@Main
Codec ID                    : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                    : 1 h 37 min
Bit rate                    : 981 kb/s
Width                       : 1 280 pixels
Height                      : 536 pixels
Display aspect ratio        : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode             : Constant
Frame rate                  : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                 : YUV
Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0
Bit depth                   : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.060
Stream size                 : 683 MiB (93%)
Default                     : Yes
Forced                      : No

their source is FGT release too but they re-encode again
and this one is very smooth no stutter after i tried it for almost 15minutes

next i will try it with X20pro and let see what it comes

 

Hello,when will come out a new firmware??When will come out Oreo version?

 

fixing some bugs with playback issue is more appreciated than come with new version os that maybe come with new bugs too