New firmware v2.0.34 version for ZIDOO X9S release

Discussion in 'X9S Official Firmware Releases' started by mirror, Jul 4, 2018.

  1. 3DBuff

    3DBuff Member

    I agree. The random frame skip is a serious issue. It’s not to the point of getting frustrated and throwing the Zidoo box out the window but it’s there on everybody’s machines whether you can see it or not.
    I’m not implying that other issues like downmixing audio or scraping issues are not important but skipping frames on continuous playback it’s a fault in the one most basic function of media player box.
     
  2. DELUCAS

    DELUCAS Active Member

    Maybe its not an issue with old tech but good Ref Plasma screen made for old school 1080p / 24 ?

    As ive yet to see any skip frames on 1080p / 24 Movies i watch .
    Hearing modern screen show it more so and of course 4K so hence why some see it.

    Not saying its not there but panning shots galore i watch out for and buttery smooth
    Id say Plasma tech has better handling of it hence ...........
     
  3. 3DBuff

    3DBuff Member

    Interesting. Maybe plasma does hide it better within 60Hz video scan and internal high speed panel refresh. I never owned plasma but every time I look at one I see screen flickering.

    On my OLED raw 24fps is rough looking like moving objects in a strobe light ;) Amy inconsistency in frame rate with or without motion interpolation stick out like a sore thumb;)
    But I still like Zidoo box:)
     
  4. DELUCAS

    DELUCAS Active Member


    When you feed my Plasma Monitor a good bupit rate feed in 1080p 24 or even low quality it looks stunning and cinema / real life as such images .
    But i did pay for it years back and still looks stunning against today tech .
    But feed it low quality it dont like it .

    My monitor was made specifically for blu ray 1080p / 24 material in its day hence why maybe i dont see it .
     
  5. 3DBuff

    3DBuff Member

    When your input is 1080p, 24fps do you get thrue cinematic 24fps on screen or does it do 3:2 pull down to 60Hz display or other frame interpolation?
     
  6. DELUCAS

    DELUCAS Active Member

    1080p 24fps but can do 60hz

    And dot to dot mode etc in pure mode stunning picture
    Hence why ive not changed .
    Id go Oled but want a Monitor Oled but they are only 1080p dual screen but to expensive .
     
  7. godalmighty

    godalmighty Member

    so i got a new file from a friends, the Avengers Infinity War 4k HDR BDremux with trueHD audio
    Code:
    General
    Unique ID                   : 284205392542944825519577724238533895076 (0xD5CFF7B3AE92C8D3A551BEADFD4E23A4)
    Complete name               : F:\Avengers - Infinity War (2018) (4K UHD BluRay REMUX HDR ATMOS AC3 JF4K).mkv
    Format                      : Matroska
    Format version              : Version 4 / Version 2
    File size                   : 53.4 GiB
    Duration                    : 2 h 29 min
    Overall bit rate mode       : Variable
    Overall bit rate            : 51.2 Mb/s
    Movie name                  : Avengers: Infinity War (2018) (4K UHD BluRay REMUX HDR ATMOS AC3 JF4K)
    Encoded date                : UTC 2018-08-08 01:13:54
    Writing application         : mkvmerge v23.0.0 ('The Bride Said No') 64-bit
    Writing library             : libebml v1.3.6 + libmatroska v1.4.9
    Cover                       : Yes
    Attachments                 : cover.jpg
    
    Video
    ID                          : 1
    Format                      : HEVC
    Format/Info                 : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Commercial name             : HDR10
    Format profile              : Main 10@L5.1@High
    Codec ID                    : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
    Duration                    : 2 h 29 min
    Bit rate                    : 45.9 Mb/s
    Width                       : 3 840 pixels
    Height                      : 2 160 pixels
    Display aspect ratio        : 16:9
    Frame rate mode             : Constant
    Frame rate                  : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space                 : YUV
    Chroma subsampling          : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
    Bit depth                   : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)          : 0.231
    Stream size                 : 47.9 GiB (90%)
    Writing library             : ATEME Titan File 3.8.16 (4.8.16.0)     
    Default                     : Yes
    Forced                      : No
    Color range                 : Limited
    Color primaries             : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics    : PQ
    Matrix coefficients         : BT.2020 non-constant
    Mastering display color pri : Display P3
    Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
    
    Audio #1
    ID                          : 2
    Format                      : TrueHD
    Format profile              : TrueHD+Atmos / TrueHD
    Codec ID                    : A_TRUEHD
    Duration                    : 2 h 29 min
    Bit rate mode               : Variable
    Bit rate                    : 4 534 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate            : 6 930 kb/s
    Channel(s)                  : 8 channels
    Channel positions           : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                  : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
    Compression mode            : Lossless
    Stream size                 : 4.73 GiB (9%)
    Title                       : Dolby Atmos / TrueHD 7.1
    Language                    : English
    Default                     : Yes
    Forced                      : No
    Number of dynamic objects   : 13
    Bed channel count           : 1 channel
    Bed channel configuration   : LFE
    
    Audio #2
    ID                          : 3
    Format                      : AC-3
    Format/Info                 : Audio Coding 3
    Commercial name             : Dolby Digital
    Codec ID                    : A_AC3
    Duration                    : 2 h 29 min
    Bit rate mode               : Constant
    Bit rate                    : 640 kb/s
    Channel(s)                  : 6 channels
    Channel positions           : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                  : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
    Bit depth                   : 16 bits
    Compression mode            : Lossy
    Stream size                 : 684 MiB (1%)
    Title                       : Dolby Digital 5.1
    Language                    : English
    Service kind                : Complete Main
    Default                     : No
    Forced                      : No
    and this one make downmix did not work at all, no sound :(:(
     
  8. 3DBuff

    3DBuff Member

    @godalmighty, no sound as no sound from the TV stereo speakers or no sound from receiver over optical SPDIF after downmix when you select Atmos?

    Stereo speakers from the TV should always work with or without downmix.
    Let us know how you got it connected and show your audio settings on Zidoo controls. I’m sure someone has similar setup and can point out the issue.

    Your phone keeps hunting the focus. Long push on the phone screen where you want to focus. It should lock the focus and allow for manual exposure adjustment. My iPhone does it.
     
  9. 3DBuff

    3DBuff Member

    @godalmighty I did this test for you. It works for me from TV stereo speakers over HDMI and from optical SPDIF using downmix. The only difference is the file. I have full ISO rather then BDremux.

    Hey, that's why I bought the Zidoo to get the BD menu :)

    Don't know how much of a difference there is but in the first audio track description I have:
    Dolby Atmos/TrueHD Audio English 5174 kbps 7.1-Atmos / 48 kHz / 5174 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)

    As you can see AC3 Core: 5.1 is embedded into the Atmos track. Quite possible that the 2 were separated during the remuxing process and the AC3 Core 5.1 ended up as a separate track your track 2. My track 2 is DD with narration.

     
  10. kairi033

    kairi033 New Member

    I don't know what happened but everything is working now HDR icon is working now, hahahaha I knew it, I knew that I can solve this accidentally everything is working now.


    it's time to play around ZDMC. Would you know what are the limitations/restrictions of ZDMC on playind movie files like can it play 4k hdr in its native player?
     
  11. godalmighty

    godalmighty Member

    my phone is xiaomi :( if i tap for a focus and everything get blur, very suck, my old lenovo is much better than this one

    my box connect to tv via HDMI and to my AVR via SPDIF coz i only have old AVR, Denon 1905:(
    no sound from both
    yes i realized that was no AC-3 embedded into Atmos audio but why with kodi sample that have embedded too and still downmix wont work, you can see the medi info from my post before
    http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?thr...or-zidoo-x9s-release.10134/page-14#post-44613
    and yes again, all my .iso that have atmos sound embedded with ac-3 and downmix work fine
    solved it accidentally or solved it by itself :D
    whatever it is, it work now and thats the good news

    i already uninstall ZDMC since HT2.0 comes out :p
    with my other box that only depend playback on kodi, 4k hdr content works fine, only they cannot show the BDmenu
     
  12. 3DBuff

    3DBuff Member

    I think you are trying to get downmix working out of pure Dolby Atmos/TrueHD 7.1 track.
    I don't think it's possible, maybe stereo.
    The only reason that downmix appears to be working on some files it's because of embedded Dolby Digital AC-3 track 5.1. There is no dowmix. It just reads the DD track and sends it over to SPDIF like in the DVD days.

    Downmix works with DTS-HD MA 7.1 only as DTS 5.1 output.

    Maybe Zidoo can fix it or maybe this is something with Dolby Atmos encoding. Most of the disks will have AC-3 track embedded in Atmos track probably for this reason. That's why you don't need to downmix Atmos 7.1, just read AC-3 5.1 track.

    Raspberry Pi and Kodi can decode TrueHD 7.1 and DTS-HD MA 7.1 into 7.1 PCM.
     
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  13. kairi033

    kairi033 New Member


    Hehehehe, anyway right now I noticed that when I play hdr content, the display/picture randomly turns off and on by a milisecond once or twice in one movie. do you think itsi HDMI handshake issue?
     
  14. godalmighty

    godalmighty Member

    no, its no problem with me
    i always used AC-3 or DTS only for my movie coz my old AVR only can do that codec :(
    just give some trying for @Vageesan Sivananthan so now he can relax coz its not that his box is defect or something, its all because of the Atmos itself
    and thanks for the explanation :D
    you mean it turns off/on once or twice in a whole one movie durations
    and you can noticed it, wow...your eyes is so damn sensitive :(
     
  15. kairi033

    kairi033 New Member


    Nahhhh its pretty damn obvious when you see it anyway, I'll just sort it out buy new HDMI cables and use differend hdmi port on my tv and let's see what will happen.
     
  16. JohnS

    JohnS Member

    Well done explaining it, that’s how downmix works, as spdif can’t decode anything more than ac-3 and dts it “reads” the embedded core files from atmos, trueHD etch.
     
  17. Yes agreed, KODI can downmix TrueHD and DTS HDMA without Embedded track. So Zidoo must find a way to make it work in HT 2.0..
     
  18. By the way @godalmighty did you tried the DTS Demo disc? Is the bluray menu working on it?
     
  19. No no im not worried about the BOX, pretty sure it's software problem. Because i tried Kodi in Zidoo X9S and the internel kodi downmix work perfectly and all my audio track dont have embedded AC3.
     
  20. godalmighty

    godalmighty Member

    wow...kodi is more powerfull than HT2.0
    sorry man, i forgot it :(
    on the way to download it first but it takes times to download 20Gb coz i dont have a high speed internet connection here :(
    but my feeling says it useless, it not gonna work if you had tried it
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2018 at 10:34 AM

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