Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos MKV bug - please acknowledge.

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by DaMacFunkin, Nov 1, 2020.

  1. ICU2018

    ICU2018 Member

    Hello everyone,
    which one is better for PQ quality. the chinoppo m9702 or this zidoo z9x and nvidia shield pro 2019? what are the pro's?

    I wanna only use it for my external usb hdd? I hope someone could help me. Ps: my tv lg oled c9.

    Cheers.
     
  2. DaMacFunkin

    DaMacFunkin Active Member

    For DV, HDR10 and LG C9 go for M9072, such a good natural picture.
     
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  3. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    just tried an Aquaman movie in a different variety of Dv plus DA

    worked great for 10 mins before stutter and audio lagging by 2 -4 secs

    Video
    ID : 4117 (0x1015)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : HEVC
    Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
    HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.04.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
    Codec ID : 36
    Duration : 2 h 23 min
    Bit rate : 57.7 Mb/s
    Width : 3 840 pixels
    Height : 2 160 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
    Bit depth : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.290
    Stream size : 57.8 GiB (94%)
    Language : English
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics : PQ
    Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
    Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
    Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
    Maximum Content Light Level : 1506 cd/m2
    Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 459 cd/m2

    Audio
    ID : 4352 (0x1100)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
    Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
    Muxing mode : Stream extension
    Codec ID : 131
    Duration : 2 h 23 min
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 448 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 6 144 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 8 channels
    Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 459 MiB (1%)
    Language : English
    Service kind : Complete Main
    Number of dynamic objects : 15
    Bed channel count : 1 channel
    Bed channel configuration : LFE

    just to Show it isnt just on dvhe 7 and 8 varieties ,this ones dvhe.04.06

    Dvhe 5.06 as in The mandolorean season 2 epis is working fine

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : HEVC
    Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile : Main 10@L5.2@Main
    HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU
    Codec ID : dvhe
    Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding with Dolby Vision
    Duration : 39 min 32 s
    Bit rate : 21.8 Mb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 43.7 Mb/s
    Width : 3 840 pixels
    Height : 2 160 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 0)
    Bit depth : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.110
    Stream size : 6.03 GiB (97%)
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 1
    Encoded date : UTC 2020-11-08 20:25:06
    Tagged date : UTC 2020-11-08 21:55:19
    Color range : Full
    Codec configuration box : hvcC+dvcC

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : E-AC-3 JOC
    Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3 with Joint Object Coding
    Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos
    Codec ID : ac-3
    Duration : 39 min 35 s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 768 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate : 811 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
    Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 218 MiB (3%)
    Language : English
    Service kind : Complete Main
    Default : Yes
    Alternate group : 2
    Encoded date : UTC 2020-11-08 20:25:06
    Tagged date : UTC 2020-11-08 21:55:19
    Complexity index : Not present / 16
    Number of dynamic objects : 15
    Bed channel count : 1 channel
    Bed channel configuration : LFE


    admittedly its only the cheapo atmos version so maybe not a great example....But at least one this is working :p
     
  4. DaMacFunkin

    DaMacFunkin Active Member

    Hi, the problem is only affecting TrueHd, maybe I should have called the thread Dolby Vision TrueHD bug MKV bug.
     
  5. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    ? definitly effects DV with DA
    switch the same mkv to 5.1 track and it plays fine
     
  6. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Hi,

    I would like to extend a warm thanks to: moal, Polypenko, DaMacFunkin, markswift, etc ... for their work on the MKV DV, thank you again for drive things forward.

    Have a nice day
     
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  7. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Well-Known Member Beta test group

    tu a raison tout le monde parle dans une autre langue pourquoi pas nous :)

    Ca fait plaisir et c'est normal avec tous le travail que vous faite.
     
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  8. blenky

    blenky Active Member

    New firmware made no difference to MKV DV remuxes stuttering after about 5 mins on my CX. Turned off HDCP and didn't help.
     
  9. DaMacFunkin

    DaMacFunkin Active Member

    I tried LCPM audio and HDCP off, no difference if source audio is THD.
     
  10. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Moderator Beta test group Contributor

    v6.0.66 is only a minor update to v6.0.60 and I only got a test file to them just before .60 was released so I wouldn't have expected a fix in this firmware.
     
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  11. blenky

    blenky Active Member

    Tried LPCM setting and made no difference
     
  12. DaMacFunkin

    DaMacFunkin Active Member

    It’s Friday, usually the day for new firmware ;-)
     
  13. McBluna

    McBluna Active Member

    You must be definitely a glass-half-full person ;)
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2020
  14. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    new version of makemkv 1.15.4 out soon with more dolby vision changes added in ,i see on their forum
     
  15. blenky

    blenky Active Member

    I have a DV MKV rip of Total Recall. This is not my rip. It plays great in DV on my Nvidia Shield (2019) but in HDR10 on the Zidoo. Media info below.

    The shield also play my own DV remuxes in DV with no major issues. Only thing is the TV's Dolby Vision label pops up constantly. However none of the stutter I'm seeing on the Z9X.

    Code:
    eneral
    Unique ID                                : 9596233893770053934497198802481424343 (0x7382ADC1932D6D07A12C158CC9FA7D7)
    Complete name                            : Z:\Total Recall.mkv
    Format                                   : Matroska
    Format version                           : Version 4
    File size                                : 48.6 GiB
    Duration                                 : 1 h 53 min
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 61.4 Mb/s
    Movie name                               : Total.Recall.1990.UHD.BluRay.Dolby.Vision.2160p.TrueHD.Atmos.7.1.HEVC.MultiSubs.ReMuX-NoSCENE
    Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-11-19 19:59:49
    Writing application                      : mkvmerge v51.0.0 ('I Wish') 64-bit
    Writing library                          : libebml v1.4.0 + libmatroska v1.6.2
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 1
    ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
    Format                                   : HEVC
    Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
    HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
    Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
    Duration                                 : 1 h 53 min
    Bit rate                                 : 57.1 Mb/s
    Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
    Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate mode                          : Constant
    Frame rate                               : 24.000 FPS
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
    Bit depth                                : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.287
    Stream size                              : 45.2 GiB (93%)
    Default                                  : No
    Forced                                   : No
    Color range                              : Limited
    Color primaries                          : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
    Mastering display color primaries        : BT.2020
    Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
    Original source medium                   : Blu-ray
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                       : 2
    ID in the original source medium         : 4352 (0x1100)
    Format                                   : MLP FBA 16-ch
    Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
    Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
    Codec ID                                 : A_TRUEHD
    Duration                                 : 1 h 53 min
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 3 464 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 5 412 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
    Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossless
    Stream size                              : 2.74 GiB (6%)
    Title                                    : TrueHD Atmos 7.1
    Language                                 : English
    Default                                  : Yes
    Forced                                   : No
    Original source medium                   : Blu-ray
    Number of dynamic objects                : 11
    Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
    Bed channel configuration                : LFE
    
     
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  16. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Moderator Beta test group Contributor

    It's a shame MediaInfo only does half a job!

    Is that FEL or MEL? (open in MakeMKV to check)
     
  17. DaMacFunkin

    DaMacFunkin Active Member

    The original is FEL.
    FEL titles passed through makemkv don’t automatically become profile 7 compliant MEL, the Shield is playing anything Profile 7, as others have said you need to convert these to MEL profile 8.1 to play on Zidoo.
    I have converted this to MEL 8.1 and watched in full on the Shield.
    On my calibrated LG C9 it is the best example of red push I have seen, it is absolutely awful.
    On Z9X it is slightly less red but still has colour push, I think the Z9X has better picture than the shield but obviously we have the TrueHD bug.
    I think Zidoo will nail this I’m hopeing anyway.
     
  18. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    played fine on my Panasonic z1000
    but it would cos atmos track removed :p

    didnt appear to be pushing any specific colours to me ...ie towards end batmans head is a bit redish but thats from the huge red neon sign on building across from him

    zidoo can play dvhe7 ok ie Alita as long as 5.1 audio tracks used
    got beverly hills cop in DV with dvhe 7 to try shortly since it only has 5.1 no atmos done for it sadly
     
  19. blenky

    blenky Active Member

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    xskip Member

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