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Beta version v6.3.75 for Z9X/Z10 Pro/Z1000 Pro/UHD3000 release.

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by mirror, Jan 22, 2022.

  1. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Sorry - don't understand what you mean - can you detail how to replicate this.
     
  2. godalmighty

    godalmighty Active Member

    which series do have a different fps, i dont have it that why i cannot try what you experience
    so far if i play different fps from several contents and use auto for frame rate only, it always work fine to adjust the frame rate even i set the display lock to 23hz
     
  3. serg fedorov

    serg fedorov Active Member

    TV series The Queen's Gambit, Jessica Jones. Both series are in Dolby Vision. They still have such a problem with the AFR.

    I spent two days installing different versions of firmware, starting from 0.22 https://www.zidoo.tv/Support/support_guide/guide_target/x0Yfq[ld]QEAzbeq7k9e[ld]3ulg==.html , then 41, 66.
    Today I installed 75 again.
    Perhaps the console needs some more work. Probably AFR will start to work stably over time.
    The prefix was rebooted and de-energized several times.
    I checked all the series, on the rest of the AFR it works fine when switching the next series.
     
  4. serg fedorov

    serg fedorov Active Member

    In the settings I set AFR forcibly AUTO. Now everything is OK with AFR.
    False alarm. Sorry.
    But the weather doesn't work. Hopefully will be updated in the next firmware.
     
  5. Oldpainless

    Oldpainless Well-Known Member

    Is the VS10 engine working when playing Dolby Vision content for everyone else? Using this fireware, VS10 engine only seems to work for SDR and HDR content. I could have sworn the previous firmwares the VS10 could be applied to all content and work.

    Cheers

    K
     
  6. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    All working here - what is your HDR setting?
     
  7. Oldpainless

    Oldpainless Well-Known Member

    Tried Player led and TV lead, makes no difference. HDR setting is use Vs10 for HDR and Dv. When playing HDR, the ziddo reports Vs10, when playing DV, it reports DV 8bit DV (TV lead).

    EDIT: Also, my black levels are way out with DV

    https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-oled-c8-owners-and-discussion.2162797/page-565

    Tried full range and limited. Normally, I run limited on both the zidoo and Tv, but using DV purge test, blacks are massively crushed (when playing DV content, my LG OLED locks/greys out the black level adjust).

    This page shows what look right, and wrong for DV content. http://test.full.band/vtest_BlackPLUGE.html With my TV at 50% brightness (which is the correct setting for HDR/DV, I don't see any bars at all).

    Test file for DV can be found here: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/op...g-calibration-patterns.2944378/#post-57600920
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2022
  8. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Your TV is Dolby Vision, therefore VS10 will output Dolby Vision.

    You set HDR to VS10 for DV and HDR content only then only DV and HDR are output in DV. SDR will output as SDR.

    If you set Dolby Vision to output LLDV, it will output 12bit 422 LLDV

    If you set Dolby Vision to output TV Led Dolby Vision it will output 8-bit RGB Tunnelled TV Led Dolby Vision

    If you play Dolby Vision material you will see the Dolby Vision Logo and Zidoo will report DV and bitdepth/colour encoding will depend on Dolby Vision setting above.

    If you play HDR material you will see VS10 logo (because VS10 is converting to DV) and Zidoo will report VS10 (because it is using VS10 to output DV)

    It sounds like your player is acting correctly, you are just interpreting what's coming out incorrectly.

    As for black level - the Zidoo outputs levels correctly (always set HDR range to 16-235) but I think there is an issue with LG TVs - others with an LG TV should be able to advise.

    Pluge tests (I've tested using Dolby Vision, HDR and SDR Pluge and ramped tests) resolve to black correctly but again, LG TVs seem to have an issue with this.
     
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  9. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    The thing to remember about VS10 is that it will always output the highest order of dynamic range processing which depends on the TV's EDID.

    If the TV is DV, VS10 will always output DV

    If the TV is HDR only, VS10 will always output HDR.

    If the TV is SDR only, VS10 will always output SDR.

    This of course can be manipulated by using a custom EDID.
     
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  10. Oldpainless

    Oldpainless Well-Known Member

    "Your TV is Dolby Vision, therefore VS10 will output Dolby Vision." Ah, that makes sense, thank you.

    Odd that I don't have the black level issue with HDR (on the LG, black level is available and set to low as it should be), but with DV (black level greyed out), the blacks are completly crushed.

    Any other LG OLED owners here have the issue or a solution?

    If I set to TV led, both the Zidoo and TV are correctly showing 8bit rgb, however, if I set to player led, the Zidoo reports 12bit, but the OLED reports 8bit....all very odd.

    Cheers, and thanks Mark.

    EDIT - will do more digging and report back.

    Update - well, I cast the test file directly to the TV, and same result as the Zidoo...so.....sorry Mark to clog the thread, looks like it's not the Zidoo.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2022
  11. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    The 12-bit/8-bit thing isn't unusual - even though 8-bit 422 isn't a legal HDMI mode, some TVs still report 12-bit 422 as 8-bit 422 because they both bizarrely use the same bandwidth - just poor programming I guess.
     
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  12. rtos

    rtos Member

    I just recently upgraded to 6.3.75 and did not notice this problem before but I'm now having problems with .iso playback. I'm experiencing stutter/freeze up when playing back the .iso files. This stutter does not occur with .mkv or BDMV files being playback. The problem is not restricted to DV but all .iso files. 4kHDR, 3D and DV .iso files. I have used two different sw programs to create the .iso files but still end up with stuttering. I have rebooted/rescanned with just temporary fix but problem reoccurs. There was discussion on mkv DV files having a problem earlier in forum but I have not seen or read of any problems with .iso files. Anyone else experienced problems with .iso file stuttering?
     
  13. cVVGLabs

    cVVGLabs Active Member

    When is it planned to release a new firmware with fixes?
     
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  14. Darkone

    Darkone New Member

    Hi,

    Since the 2 updates, My library is not update when i started HT4. In V6.3.55 thé update is OK.
    My library is in a Synology in NFS protocol.

    Anyone else have this problem ?
     
  15. Thanh Nguyen

    Thanh Nguyen Member

    Coming across an issue with HDMI-CEC with LG C1, when switching between sources like away from Zidoo to PC and back to Zidoo, upon selection of Zidoo HDMI source. The Zidoo will shutdown.
     
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  16. Oldpainless

    Oldpainless Well-Known Member

    Not sure if this goes here, or a bug report section?

    Auto refresh AND Resolution switching is outputting 4:4:4 8bit, even though the zidoo OSD reports 4:4:4 10/12 bit (depending on settings).
     
  17. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Never experienced that - can you give your settings so I can try to replicate.
     
  18. Oldpainless

    Oldpainless Well-Known Member

    Hi Mark,


    UPDATE - Scrub that Mark. If I select Video through on the Yamaha, my oled reports 1080p 4:4:4 10bit, so the amp presumably thinks that 1080p 10bit is an illegal stream and outputs 8bit it seems when scaling 1080p to 4k. Odd.

    Sorry, I should have checked that before I posted,
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2022
  19. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    No problem :)

    Thought it was an odd one..
     
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  20. ursiel

    ursiel Active Member

    There's a critical issue with subtitles displaying when playing an HDR file using the VS10 processor on the Z9X.

    When playing an mkv (in this case 1080p) with HDR10 and HDR output set to "Dolby Vision VS10 Engine (For HDR, DV Content)", subtitles don't display properly for me.

    They either appear totally unreadable, like pixellated dot-matrix, with odd colors, or sometimes if it is readable, it's the wrong color. I've gone back-and-forth a few times with my HDR settings. If I set HDR output to "Auto", subtitles display fine with the same file being played back. If I re-enable VS10, it's back to being garbled again, or the wrong color. Yesterday I couldn't even finish a video when the forced subtitles popped up and they were unreadable. I tried different subtitle color settings, etc., but nothing made them readable.

    That was with v6.3.66 installed. Today, I installed v6.3.75, and it's the same issue, but today, after switching HDR to Auto and then back to VS10, subs are now semi-readable, sort of, but they don't look right and they're the wrong color. If I select yellow, they're green, for example. Whatever color I select, it displays wrong, and some colors display like dot-matrix again.

    I'm using the custom EDID "BT.2020 HDR10" posted in the EDID thread to disable DV output as my TV doesn't handle DV well, so HDR and DV are both processed with VS10 and output as HDR10. This has been working well until I discovered this subtitle issue.

    I have no idea what's going on with HDR/VS10 subtitles but this is important and they need to take a look at it. Can anyone else replicate this issue? Currently, I'm unable to use VS10 for any HDR content if I need to display subtitles.

    EDIT: If I select white or grey for subtitles with this file, they appear readable now with VS10 enabled. If I select any colors they appear as the wrong color.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2022

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