Zidoo X10...Review... FW2.0.15

Discussion in 'ZIDOO X10' started by OlivierQC, Jul 31, 2017.

  1. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    Hello all,


    The company zidoo is recognized to have good device at very competitive prices

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    May be that some people will say that this review is not necessary, i do not have the same opinion.

    Each type of device corresponds to a user profile, those who do not have Wired Gigabit Ethernet and who do not want to have external hdd on their audio-video bench/furniture could be interrested by the X10 which allows to have a storage up to 10 To in a small cube of 20cm by 20cm.

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    FaceBook

    facebook.com/zidootv

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    Download FW 2.0.15 (Beta)

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    I am not an audio-visual expert and I report to you what I see on my TV.

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    Here is a presentation of

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    unboxing

    We have a box of white color (new packaging), it is very rigid and nothing moves inside the box

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    the multimedia player is well protected, very well protected...i like that.

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    Usual cables are there

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    The casing

    NOTE The color of the case is darker in real

    It is a small box ( 197mmx197mmx65mm), it allows to place it on any model of furniture/bench TV, the grey aluminum casing has a good finishes, the manufacturing quality is excellent.

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    The X10 has a 3.5’’ HDD Tray to install an external HDD, This allows to have a big collection of movies in a box of this small size…

    The Zidoo X10 recognizes the hard drive NTFS/GPT format and up 10To

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    We have the same input/output as on the x9s

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    Remote control (new Model)

    the remote is good qualities, the keys are backlit

    The keys are rubber and all functions are available on the front panel and there is a STOP button.

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    New ZIUI

    the new zidoo interface available with the FW 2.0.15, an interface with tiles, the dominant colors are black and gray and a touch of blue for the tiles that is selected

    For me it's elegant and practical but it's a matter of personal taste.


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    Display VFD

    This is the new VFD only available on the X10, It displays several information like : play, pause. if the output signal is 4k or 1080p, HDR, if there is an internal hdd, etc....

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    The luminosity is adjustable on 2 levels, you can also turn it off.

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    3.5’’ HDD Tray


    The installation of the hard disk is easy, and takes only 3 seconds, you just need to have a HDD in NTSF / GPT.

    It is immediately recognized on the VFD ( HDD icon).

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    Boot Up

    The X10 boots up to main user interface in about 29/30 seconds, after pressing power button on remote.



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    OpenWRT

    To transfer video files from your PC to the X10

    In the network section of your PC, you will see an openwrt icon

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    Open it and copy/paste the file you wish to have on your Zidoo X10

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    At the end of the transfer, the file will be available on your X10

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    Last edited: May 5, 2018
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  2. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group


    Home Theater Version 2.0

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    I use my zidoo X10 with HT 2.0 to watch my movies

    This is only my opinion, but their interface is very pleasant and pretty, HT 2.0 offers several options to customize its interface.

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    For your information

    I do not play android games
    I do not tests for performance (wifi, chipset, etc...)
    I do not use subtitles
    I do not use ZDMC
    I do not care about UHD demos with different frequency or exotic video format that do not work with Zidoo X10.
    I use the X10 to watch my movies, and nothing else.
    My collection contains only movies at the frequency of 23.976.

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    My equipment

    Sony 65X930C (HDMI enhanced)
    Onkyo 656 (4k/hdcp 2.2/HDR)
    Cable Monster Ultra HD Platinum
    Focal dome 5.1.2 ou 7.2 according to the tests
    NAS personal cloud / SMB
    Seagate Baracuda 8TB (internal HDD)
    Orico 9558Ru3 24TB (USB 3)
    Wired Gigabit Ethernet

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    I am not an audio-visual expert and I report to you what I see on my TV.

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    Movies UHD HDR (ISO / BDMV / Remux)

    The BD menu HD/UHD works properly

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    About Frame Rate with UHD HDR videos
    there are some micro stuttering but it's very discreet and we do not see it all the time even if they are present, my family do not notice them and I am focused on the story of the film so it's not a problem for me.


    Problem with one UHD HDR movie
    The movie stops as if we were pausing and after a few seconds the screen goes black with the message "can't play video" in the middle of the screen and we go back to the page of presentation of the film.


    Audio cut out when seeing some UHD HDR movie
    it seems like it could be a problem of seamless branching with some Disney movies for example



    EDIT :
    According to the zidoo team, the 3 points above will be solved with the next FW

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    Movies HD (ISO / BDMV / Remux / mkv / avi)

    The BD menu works properly.

    Nothing to report for me, everything works properly, I do not have stuttering, the Zidoo switch to the right resolution (1080p/720p - mkv/avi)

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    Movies HD 3D (ISO)

    There is perfect support for ISO 3D, and the blu ray menu works properly, even if some people have problems with some movies and their BD menu.

    The Zidoo X10 allows a smooth playback of ISO 3D movies, which is not the case for some competitor.

    The 3D symbol appears in the movie information screen.
    (I do not have the movie on the picture, it's a trick)

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    The different options for 3D movies​

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    Bluray Region code

    I checked if the bluray Region option works and it works properly.

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    Atmos / True HD / DD
    DTS X / DTS HD MA/HRA / DTS


    I checked different soundtrack and everything is correctly recognized by the Zidoo/HT 2.0​

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    Jellyfish Bitrate Test Files

    The jellyfish-400-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv play without any problems (no freeze, no stuttering, etc..)

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    VP9 Videos

    There are always stuttering,
    I guess the problem comes from the realtek chip

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    ISO DVD

    I just checked an iso dvd, and everything looks to work properly, the dvd menu and the video

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    Conclusion

    You do not have NAS, no wired gigabit network at home, and You need a discreet device in your living room with a large storage space to keep your movies...the Zidoo X10 offers all this.

    For comparing some devices between them, the Zidoo offers the best picture quality without having to start to modify settings.

    It offers one of the best image(out of box) in this category of device, compatible with an internal HDD up to 10To in a cube of 20cmx20cm, with a small price (in this category)...no longer search, you found it...

    I use the X10 to play my movies and nothing else.

    The X10 works properly with all my movie collection (avi, mkv, ISO, bdmv) in SD, HD and UHD

    About HT V2.0, i love it, it works very well for a BETA version, that's what I expected and even if there are adjustments to make in the future FW, the base is excellent.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2018
  3. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group



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    Compatibility with Control4 and Zidoo devices
    For those who have the Control4 system, here is the driver and the procedure to follow...

    Control 4 driver supports only X8 / X9S / X10 v2.0.0 firmware version, and X20 PRO

    Drive Download

    Manual Download

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    For those who need the Home Theater 2.0 apk, here are the links

     
    Last edited: May 7, 2018
  4. npoupine

    npoupine New Member

    Congratulation for your fantasric review!
    I try to share the qualities of this device on a French website, but I must say that I would be hard to be as complete and as accurate as you! Bravo anyway. ;)
     
  5. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group


    Zidoo music 2.0

    I wanted to check the playback of some audio file with their new audio player Zidoo music 2.0 app.

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    I am surprised and a little disappointed by Zidoo, it lacks something that I find important (this is just my opinion), tis is the poster/pictures of audio CDs that we listen with Zidoo Music 2.0, instead we have a 33 1/3 records drawings ... :(

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    There is an option with several Ambient sounds

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    I tried the following samples

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    I downloaded sample files on the following website :
    http://www.2l.no/hires/

    [HD-SACD-DSD]Antonio Vivaldi - Le Quattro Stagioni (Les Quatres Saisons) {Salvatore Accardo} [2009] OK PCM 2 channels
    [HD-SACD-DSD]Mike Oldfield -Tubular Bells -1973 OK PCM 2 channels
    2L 106 stereo PCM 192k MAGNIFICAT OK
    2L 106 stereo PCM 96k MAGNIFICAT OK
    2L 106 multi channel PCM 96k MAGNIFICAT OK
    2L-106_stereo_DSD-2822k_MAGNIFICAT_04.dsf OK
    2L 106 multi channel DSD 2822k MAGNIFICAT.dsf Failed

    See you​
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2018
  6. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    Hello all,

    I do not have DVD movie ISO in my collection, but I use 2 samples for tests.

    I checked the ISO support with the following apps :

    ZDMC 17.3 Beta
    Kodi 17.3 (Cobric's Version)
    Home theater app
    Explorer

    For information:
    The apps use the Zidoo player which explains why ISO DVDs work properly with them



    I do some testing and everything seems to work properly, except the Forward & Backward function for chapters

    This is not a big deal, you can return to the DVD menu and use Scenes Selection.

    See you
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2017
  7. Libelle283

    Libelle283 New Member

    @OlivierQC It seems very similar to the Zappiti. Before I decide which to buy -
    I have a lot of videos with covers that are not on TMDb.
    The Zappiti Media Center allows me to easily add these.
    Can this also be done on Home Theater?
     
  8. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    Hello Libelle283,

    I do not know at all, give me a movie title that is not in imdb and I will do a test

    see you
     
  9. Libelle283

    Libelle283 New Member

    @OlivierQC some examples
    "The Glory of Spain" (dvd available from Amazon)
    "On the Backroads in Tuscany"
    "Oscar Peterson Montreux Jazz Festival"
    "Sinatra Vegas"
     
  10. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    hello Libelle283,

    it does not find it.

    I'm not surprised, it works with imdb if I'm not mistaken, and we can not import the poster of our choice.

    see you
     
  11. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    hello all,


    I just installed the latest FW 1.4.12, i made a hard reset to have a clean box with the following procedure :

    http://www.futeko.com/newforum/index.php?topic=2217.0

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    With the previous fw 1.4.6 we were limited to 48 khz with HD audio files, i just try 3 audio files in 96khz / 196khz with the new FW , and everything seems to work fine.

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  12. boblo

    boblo Member

    With new firmware, now is the box able to play AIFF/ALAC/DSF/DSD/SACD hi-res audio files without using an external USB DAC (with the RTD1295 internal DAC)? Does this mean that the 48kHz barrier imposed by Android 6 (Nougat does not have this issue) is now beated?

    Thanks.
     
  13. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    Hello Boblo,

    Good question,

    I'm not an expert, but I guess yes, my receiver displays the frequency that corresponds to the audio hd samples, this was not the case before.

    If this can be confirmed by other persons

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    I just try the following audio files available here :

    http://samplephotovideo.com/2015/12/sample-dsd-audio-file/

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    And the DSD 64 audio files does not work , i do not know if it's normal or not


    This causes problems that requires rebooting the box with the ON/OFF button, as on my video or an error message that indicates the stop of the application I use to play the audio file
    and I also have to reboot the box with the back button ON/OFF.



    see you
     
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  14. ppccrazu

    ppccrazu New Member

    Could you please help me test BluRay 4K Full Rip (BDMV) by Full Menu Navigation. It can show menu navigation or not? I hope if it fix and can be use this fucking same as Egreat A5/A10. It perfect for everybody. Regard
     
  15. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    hello ppccrazu,

    I do not know if Zidoo has planned something for the future, you should ask to the Zidoo Team.

    A small reminder for those who discover the Zidoo devices and the support of the BD Menu.

    Zidoo X8/9S/10 :

    Home theater app supports HD BD menu
    Home theater app supports UHD BD menu

    ZDMC does not support HD BD menu
    ZDMC does not support UHD BD menu


    see you

     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2018
  16. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    Hello all,

    For those who begin in the world of kodi with their Zidoo, and who want to customize it with a simple and fast skin.

    Currently I use the kodi 17.3 Cobric's version (only for zidoo devices) with the skin Aeon Nox Redux available in the options of kodi

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    Here is a tutorial to show you how to have the same presentation as me

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    An example of what we can have :

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    You can change the background images with the one you want in the sections : POWER, VIDEO and SYSTEM as in the example below.

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    see you
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2017
  17. Mumakil

    Mumakil Member Beta test group

    Great videos my friend ! :)

    But where is the link for Kodi 17.4 (Zidoo of course). I just find 17.3 :D
     
  18. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    hello mumakil,

    sorry, i made a mistake, i wanted to say kodi 17.3 :oops:
     
  19. Mumakil

    Mumakil Member Beta test group

    Ok !! No problemo !!

    See you ;)
     
  20. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    a bientot :)
     

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