Now that Zidoo keeps coming with new Neo players focusing on music playback it is about time for such a topic: My current verdict for MP7 is changed to 'usable' accordingly. That is to say for the Neo class models. There are still many items to be looked at and I am not very sure yet it is all stable? The playback of SACD ISO's (both 2CH and MCH) is actually very nicely implemented with this FW and worth mentioning. For an entry level media player like a Z9X the music player is good and including advanced features. It is not about essential MP playback problems which is already covered here: http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?thr...ms-upto-fw-v6-4-06-no-feature-requests.84836/ Basic playback is by now working correct for all 2CH album formats and almost all MCH album formats including MCH SACD via DSD => PCM conversion. It is neither about file structuring and naming conventions which is already covered too: http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/how-to-tag-and-structure-music-collection-for-mp.91886/ It is about things which are missing features, are inconvenient, are displayed wrong under certain conditions or simply don't work for your collection/use. Zidoo is specifically invited to comment on this list and clearly mark FW updates with fixes. Items in red make the player unusable for those relying on these must be supported features. Items marked orange are essential features missing which ought to be be present on above all Neo class music players. 1) Lyrics may show HTML apostrophes as text e..g. "'" or """ It happens with some lyrics but doing a search for other versions for the same track it may show these correctly. This is very annoying as it makes lyrics (almost) unreadable. Seems to be solved with FW 6.4(7).20 for all models 2) There is no specific view for Album-Artist Implemented in a different way with FW 6.4(7).42 for all models. One can set a limiter of titles matching an artist to be flagged as an Album-Artist. 3) Use the info in tracks including tags Tracks with tags (e.g. MP3/FLAC) should show at least: Artist, Album and Track/Title derived from those. A preference option may be used to achieve this: Preference set to Tagged Data = ON/OFF. Pressing Info all tag fields available should be shown. When tagged the core info (title, artist, album) is used with FW 6.4(7).42 in a bit strange way: - Title and Artist are shown big on top central screen - Album is just shown as one of the items in the track details left on the screen 4) Scraping is extremely slow (forget about really big libraries for now) Solved with FW 6.7.20 for Neo models doing roughly 1000 tracks/minute. Tested by me up to 65.000+ tracks. Using "Automatic updating sources" is a bad idea when you have a big collection as I do. As it will redo the whole scanning process again each time. 5) It should be possible to create multiple collections. A show total view should include all and also a search should work per collection or for all. Can be by genre or other choices with (very) large collections. I e.g. use it for MP3, CD, SACD, DTS-CD etc. collections. 6) Artist + Track may be shown (Album not shown) or just the Filename of the track (for titles/tracks not being tagged appropriately) Artist + Track display works only if: - Characters with overstrikes are not present in names as these are not recognized for this feature to work! - The structure must be "Track Nr - Track Name - Artist". Strange enough also "Artist - Track Nr - Track Name" works. My own HDD is standardized "Track Nr - Artist - Track Name" for Collection-Albums and "Track Nr - Track Name" for Artist-Albums having no Artist field in the name at all. Including Artist for those is superfluous and makes the display unnecessarily longer. This is a very common structure used by many others too making the feature not working at all. - Works only if the album is scanned first but can be played next using Media Center. There are likely consequences to not deriving the Artist during scanning for other features? Album is more relevant for me than the Artist. Obviously all 3 should be shown here as most music players do. 7) Missing a big font (scrolling) selectable display on the Neo models for: Artist, Album and Track/Title. Must be readable from typical listening distance. Suggested are 3 lines with just that actual content. No need to put: Artist, Album or Track/Title in front as these just eat valuable space. If scrolling causes (potential) resource problems then just truncate/limit these displays making the display static. Can't be a hard problem to add this display? 8) Seamless integration with popular Client/Server APP's for external library services Using alternative music library APP's using full function internal players for video and music. If available also the Android based Server support should be included. Good progress is noted here for all mentioned (Roon, JRiver, Jellyfin, Plex, Emby etc) with the exception of Emby (which runs fine but lacks Internal Player support). 9) Album art may not be shown always despite a folder.jpg file being included in the folder The problem only occurs when the track is provided with tags. I think this is solved. Did not see any problem anymore. 10) Album art is cached once being played. This makes it impossible to replace the picture by simply replacing the source file. Only a library clean will reset the artwork used but that requires a new scan. Please add tag updating/correcting as an option per album: "Re-write Tags/Cover" on-demand and real time command. Solved with FW 6.4(7).18 which allows the total Album art cache to be reset. 11) Technical track format details (left on the screen) misses sample-size info It includes sampling-rate but not the sample-size which in my hearing tests is a lot more relevant (16, 20, 24, 32 bit) Implemented only on Neo models as it is shown on the Front Panel then. 12) Moving the cursor around for the various views and panels is neither easy nor intuitive. It is easy to loose the notion where it actually is as screen layouts work with subsections and one may need to do many cursor moves to get to another section on the screen. As-is it almost asks for using a pointer mouse. 13) Disturbing/weird (English) language problems English bad translations get most likely next translated to other bad translations again. Please add others found. The most important got fixed already but e.g. still see: - Scraping musics => Scraping source or scraping target (musics in not an English word at all) - Riping with CD Extractor +> Should be Ripping as only fruits do ripe. Was changed on some instance(s). 14) Support PLS and M3U playlists Both formats are commonly used and widespread. Now only created playlists with MP are working. 15) Marking all Lyrics found as unmatched. Even doing a lookup no (acceptable) match may be found. It is not possible to mark this hiding any currently found sources. 16) Missing an option to show filenames with the extension. Some like that and others don't. OFF as the default. 17) Missing an option to show track numbers in front of track/title Showing track numbers in front is often an option with music players as some like that and others don't. OFF as the default. 18) Add a configurable equalizer feature Won't be using that one myself but customers do expect such a feature on players in this price class for sure. 19) Integrate popular for free and on-demand streaming music services. Access to the very large number of free radio services could also be done using a separate APP. My Dune includes the excellent APP (Radio Time) for that with also geo awareness finding even local stations. One needs APP's for Android TV (Remote Control) for this not for Smart Phones (made for touch control). 20) On demand tag/cover updating from a few popular sources This similar to what several CD ripping programs include. Also renaming the track titles (if not included from the Artist + Album folder name). 21) MP7 can hardly be operated via Media Library anymore. MP7 hardly works anymore when controlled via Media Center since FW 6. 4(7).42 was introduced. One is now implicitly obliged to take the scraping route and start title/album playback via the integrated library choices after scraping completes for selected folders. When adding a new album for evaluation purposes I don't want to run a new total scan, so this capability is regarded essential by me. 22) My Neo Alpha plays MCH SACD only in 2 CH when the TV is turned off/disconnected. Only when the TV is ON with an image MCH will play/detected. MP7 should work with above all Neo models without even a TV being connected. I am using obviously Dual HDMI outputs to enjoy DSD output via HDMI with this. Warning: This does not happen using my Z9X using this same FW!!!!! Nothing in here which is not be expected from a quality media player I think? Sorry Zidoo but still a lot of work to do but good progress is noted.