Music Player 5.0 (firmware 2.3.3) – testing, findings, improvements expected

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1296)' started by hao1080p, Dec 26, 2019.

  1. DELUCAS

    DELUCAS Well-Known Member

    The main top Android makers are Zidoo , Zapitti , Himedia , Dune and as such Nvidia plus a couple more ......
    They all have there possitives and negatives and drawbacks .

    You have to pick the ones that mostly tick your box or address fixes or try to as well as do regular updates .
    They All have issues .
     
  2. ThomasP

    ThomasP Member

    @Nice Monkey

    Have a look at CocktailAudio. Starting at 550€ with an superb DAC on Board ...
     
  3. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    I am looking for a Music Player with/without stereo DAC but also passing MCH DSD via HDMI. Any suggestions?
     
  4. ThomasP

    ThomasP Member

  5. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    S/PDIF is outdated and not a replacement for HDMI with MCH.
    This is all about Stereo only. Not what i am looking for. Thanks!
     
  6. karipu

    karipu Member

    Ditto.
     
  7. Alfredo M.

    Alfredo M. New Member

    Well in the end after using kodi 18 and its music player I have had to fight again with Music player 5.0 because although the visual aspect of the kodi player is incredible, it has many errors in the music reproduction with continuous cuts in the songs, and also the most important thing for me that was the lyrics of the songs shown in animated mode only works when you play from the album list not from the song list. Now when I return to music player 5.0 after scanning the disk with my 11,000 songs a multitude of times I have managed to finish doing it without closing the player but after this success it turns out that now from the thumbnail view of the songs when I try to move to right The player crash and close, just like the album thumbnail view. Overall I see that I will have to wait for them to release a new version of music player 5.0 with the solution to these problems. I do not know if the same thing happens to you, or it is a problem of the x9s that is already obsolete and cannot manage so much information. By the way, does anyone know why it might happen that the program closes when I try to move through the album and song thumbnails and yet in the artists and folders view it doesn't happen?
     
  8. ThomasP

    ThomasP Member

    @Nice Monkey

    Maybe you go the way over an suitable AV Receiver. For example the Denon AVR-X4300H or successor should handle it.
     
  9. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Maybe, but I can nowhere read that the music player:
    - Can read SACD ISO files
    - Can read MCH DSD with DST compresssion.

    My Onkyo has similar specs but reads only DSF, DFF (without DST) in stereo from an USB stick (not USB HDD or NAS).
     
  10. Alfredo M.

    Alfredo M. New Member

    Can someone tell me how to put the fanart in the background without going to a song, click on the ok button and keep it, then choose to see artist and then choose images and add the image from a folder?
    Can you put the background images in the album folder so that they later appear when the song is played? Should we call them somehow? folder or background or any other name?
     
  11. hao1080p

    hao1080p New Member

    At this moment, I will suggest we wait for the next update on Music Player. I have stopped trying with the renaming works.
    Comparing wiht the other music apps, what I can tell is that MP's scraping logic is not right since the beginning, and it goes in the deadlock if only recognizing the ablums by names, if without reading the music tags, and without linked to such CD database like FreeDB, TMDB etc.
     
  12. hao1080p

    hao1080p New Member

    I was not expecting another battle field here, but we may have to be a bit fair with such TV end Android apps, and remember this is just +100$ box...

    Indeed MP is quite at the low side comparing with others, however need to remember that HT is really on the best side in playback performance, and with a real good looking interface.

    Talking about MP itself, playback performance is still on the high-end:
    - few android players can properly play and recognize the SACD ISO, DFF, MCH, DTS..
    - easy to use - which is critical for the TV end with remote control - I stopped with Kodi mainly because I was really sick with KODI's RT controls...
    - album covers, disc, backdrop, lyrics, artist introduction... (by the way, FW 3.15 now also started to use your own pics of disc and can use your lyrics in the same directory)- it is a beautiful tool.

    The only short board of MP is the album matching philosophy, and indeed it brought many pains to everybody including me trying to fix the issues.
    And the wrong matching totally destroyed the organizations and links between all the elements, and it also brought problems even to play properly a full album (this is what I found from 2.3.15).

    BTW, we shall say Zidoo is updating quite frequently - just after I made this post, there were quite some FW update with 2.3.10, 2.3.15, and 2.3.17, but after that Zidoo has no more news on MP...

    So anybody knows when the next update on MP will be?

    If it will still take some time, I shall post another testing report based on 2.3.15 with all those new findings (mostly still related with scraping mechanics).
     
  13. ThomasP

    ThomasP Member

    Not really. The app is not just for the Z9s, for the Z10 also.And not forget Z1000 and i think UHD2000 will use a succession of this software. Its anothe rpoint for the straneg doing of the Zidoo developers. They start something which seems to be a good idea, and then they develop new features without solving old bugs. The players of Zidoo could be awesome at the top but because of their issues they are only mainstream.
     
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  14. hao1080p

    hao1080p New Member

    Just got your pics seen finally... I don't have the MJ's BAD, so no idea if it existed in the DB of Zidoo. But the naming of the folder/tracks are quite all right.
    Check on the playback screen, if there are some background indicated on the playback screen, it basically means the album is matched. Also there should be more album info (publish date, release company, sometimes the gene also). If not, it means it is not matched.

    But it also surprised me, you have quite some ablums on the screen, but not even 1 artist indicated?
     
  15. hao1080p

    hao1080p New Member

    Agreed with the pricing of UHD 2000, but it is not for those guys who already have an amplifier. Same case for the CocktailAudio x14.

    BTW, the only point interested me of CocktailAudio is to know the ripping and scraping is based on Gracenote, which is one major task for Zidoo to work on.
     
  16. hao1080p

    hao1080p New Member

    Just saw the news that Zidoo is developing the Roon ready, Tidal, Spotify...
    Maybe it is a good news for the people who are expecting the brand-new Music Player, or maybe a bad news we may have to wait more time...
    Roon Ready for me is just a joke, even though it looks like the best scrapper nowadays, but 700$ for only membership:mad:...
     
  17. mirror

    mirror Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo TECH Supporter

    Well, We are developing a new version, which I think will be released in two months.
    Of course, it fully refers to the opinions in this thread
     
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  18. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Sounds promising. :)
    May I do the interpretation that it will be launched together with Zidoo X? ;)
     
  19. hao1080p

    hao1080p New Member

    Thanks mirror for the update, at least we know it is on the way, and how we live with the current issues.
    Will try to post soon the next report of further findings, hope it may still be helpful...
    A good surprise will be expected:)
     
  20. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Active Member Beta test group

    Good news,

    But not sure that it is at the same time as the availability of the Zidoo X, but it would be nice :)
     

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