Media Labels for HT4

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by Markswift2003, Feb 3, 2021.

  1. McBluna

    McBluna Well-Known Member

    You are all still invited to join the beta test of my Home Theater DB Tool. All you've to do is to send me a pm.
  2. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant New Member

    I would like to post my thanks to McBluna for creating this tool. I am currently getting to grips with its use and am sure that I am bothering him with all my queries as to its use and the errors that I am coming up against.
    Perhaps we could have a new thread devoted to this tool
  3. vddan

    vddan Active Member

    A little more detail could interest more people!
  4. rozel

    rozel Active Member

    Yes, I could be interested. Whilst I use Music Player 6 for my music, I have adopted the Media File Manager for my Films. MP 6 and HT4 are both hit and miss when you scrape.
  5. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant New Member

    To Quote McBluna's original post of 20/2/2021
    " I'm working on a TMM/NFO to Zidoo loader. It inserts, updates and deletes the entries in the backup file of HT and copies the images to the Zidoo image folder. And more stuff.
    Anyone who would like to participate the beta test please send me a pm."
  6. vddan

    vddan Active Member

    Yes ..... thank you, that I read it correctly, but a little more details of 'how' it works would be welcome!
  7. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant New Member

    I have taken this from McBluna's webpage where he describes the use of the program. I hope he agrees with this

    "As input source for my tool I wanted to use the nfo files generated by tinyMediaManager or similar. The tool comes without a gui* and I’ve no plan to add one. This tool reads all supported information stored in Kodi conforming nfo files for Movies and TV Shows and transfers them into a Home Theater library backup file. The tool inserts, updates and delete Movies, Movie Collections, TV Shows, Seasons and Episodes.
    You don’t have to rename your files for the Zidoo scraper anymore

    To get valid scraping result with the Zidoo scraper in many cases you have to rename your files. With this tool you can leave your files untouched.
    ◆ Use the images for Movies and TV Shows what you want
    ◆ Export Home Theater database to Excel for visualization
    You can get the deviceIds, sourceIds and categoryId from the Home Theater database
    ◆ extended category handling
    You can add or remove videos based on the source or on the filename to or from a category.
    ◆ Automatic mode
    The tool creates a backup file for you, updates it and automatically restores the backup into Home Theater "by the use of a suitably configured config file"

    There is also a "manual" command line mode

    As I stated If McBluna can add his thoughts or add corrections to what I have posted
  8. vddan

    vddan Active Member

    Oh ! big thank you ........... like this it is already clearer.
  9. timmyp53

    timmyp53 Member

    Will the DB tool get the proper media labels as well?
  10. McBluna

    McBluna Well-Known Member

    Yes it does, what's supported by HT4.
    Last edited: May 11, 2021
  11. timmyp53

    timmyp53 Member

    Getting proper matching via nfo as well as media labels would be great. I know you said on your site you don't plan on creating a gui for this tool. I'm lost on how to even use this thing at the most basic level for assisting with this. Forums on your site look dead too sadly. Can you help out or point to the exact page how to use it? How to use nfo files I've gotten from tiny media manager to match shows and get working media labels. I'm sure Im not the only one confused and if I am it will still be useful to others.
    Last edited: May 11, 2021
  12. timmyp53

    timmyp53 Member

    Anybody know how to use this db tool? or an automation tool to work along with or to replace tmm for matching and media labels?
  13. timmyp53

    timmyp53 Member

  14. McBluna

    McBluna Well-Known Member

    I'm currently testing the cycle export nfo from Zidoo, load it to tinyMediaManager and import it back to Zidoo. After the next release I'll write a guide how to use the tool.
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  15. Cerebro

    Cerebro New Member

    Sounds great!
    I’m about to order a Z1000 pro to use with a the Panasonic oled tv I’ll buy when it comes out in June. I have a collection of 4K mkv files I’d like to play and see in HT4 on the Zidoo with the correct medialabels. Is the DB tool the only thing I’ll need to get the info about my files in HT4 or will I also need to do some other things? I read about tinymedia manager, mediainfo, etc. but those are for creating an nfo file, and not needed for the DB tool?

    I’m interested in the most efficient way to get the job done. By the way, I have the files on a NAS and will make modifications from a Mac if I can’t do it from the Zidoo.
  16. timmyp53

    timmyp53 Member

    thank you.
  17. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Would it not make more sense to simply scrape with TMM, export artwork, trailers and NFOs from TMM and then just run a full scan on the Zidoo using local resources only?

    With the exception of using TMM, this is what I do - always maintain correct NFOs, trailers and artwork (including collection artwork) locally and then when I want to rescan (which with all the fiddling about I do is quite often!) I can do it in the knowledge that everything comes back exactly the same as before and isn't relying on the vagaries of TMDB shifting and changing their artwork or manual collection additions being messed up.
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  18. timmyp53

    timmyp53 Member

    Could you explain how to do this exactly? I saw that local resources feature but im confused on how to use it. Would the zidoo find all the related files from TMM scraping by itself?
  19. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    The first thing to do is do an online scrape of your existing library and get all artwork and collections setup as you want.

    Then go to HT4/Settings/Library/Export NFO and export posters and fanart.

    This puts an NFO and artwork in each movie folder named like:


    Unfortunately this doesn't export collection posters, so this has to be done manually - I put collection posters in each movie in a collection named like "collectionName-poster.jpg"

    For example "The Fast and Furious Collection-poster.jpg"

    Where this falls down is where "collectionName" contains illegal characters not allowed in filenames, for example "Star Trek: Alternate Reality Collection" where the colon is an illegal character. In these cases I omit the character and although the poster will use the online resource, I'm hoping Zidoo fix this at some point.

    In order to get all the posters as shown in HT4, open each collection in turn the go to the hidden .HomeTheatre directory in the Storage folder of the Zidoo and you'll see all the posters in there but with odd file names - it's a bit of a faff to get them and rename as above but really doesn't take long and only has to be done once.

    There is also a "collectionName-fanart.jpg" backdrop, so as a belt and braces approach you can copy that too, but I don't know what it's used for.

    I then grab trailers as described here and put those in the movie folder too:

    After all this you have:

    (if applicable)
    collectionName-fanart.jpg (if applicable)

    In each movie folder

    In HT4/Setting/Preferences set

    NFO Parse - Precedence
    Use Local Images First - <on>
    Show Local Trailers Only - <on>

    This means that next time you need to scrape, the artwork and info comes from local resources and isn't reliant on the vagaries of TMDB or YouTube.

    When you add a movie, it will scrape online initially but then you just need to manually add a trailer (and collection art if needed) and export the NFO and artwork again, but leave "Overwrite Old Files" unticked.

    All this sounds like a huge task - honestly, it isn't, but this is what I meant about TMM earlier - if TMM had a "Zidoo Export" that did all this, the process would be far easier and the whole library could be managed in one place with a nice interface.
  20. Sakura

    Sakura New Member

    Zidoo also seems to not be able to match at all when the tmdb title has a semicolon in it. Had to manually match quite few things cause of this. Weird cause theres literally only always one search result for the shows I have to match. You would think it would just match by default if theres only one result. That should probably apply globally not just for semicolon issues...

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