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Beta version v6.4(7).42 for Z9X/Z10 Pro/Z1000 Pro/UHD3000/NEO S/NEO X/NEO Alpha release

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by mirror, Oct 18, 2022.

  1. Nicholas Hewitt

    Nicholas Hewitt Active Member

    it has been 4 months and nothing has been released. Not even a verbal update...... like I said they are too busy trying to make more money on new boxes, then fix what's already sold and not working up to normal standards.
     
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  2. cVVGLabs

    cVVGLabs Active Member

    I completely agree with you.
     
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  3. thivame

    thivame Active Member

    yes exactly Temearoo, I only watch video locally...

    I'm starting to think so too. I'm thinking that maybe I should have chosen a player with fewer features that are useless to me, but better accomplished than the zidoo (especially at the price I paid)
    As I've often mentioned, why bother making new features that not everyone uses, when some basic functions (for the video player or for HT4) are non-existent or don't work properly
     
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  4. cVVGLabs

    cVVGLabs Active Member

    Especially the function that disables and enables the LAN port diode. Super is a very necessary function. I laughed for a very long time.
     
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  5. thivame

    thivame Active Member

  6. Yohmi

    Yohmi Member

    That kind of message will totally make them want to work hard for you and bring them strength to keep going. You're talking about humans, you're talking to humans. Look at yourself.
     
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  7. cVVGLabs

    cVVGLabs Active Member

    Yohmi -
    What did you mean by that? I have several media players, one of them is DUNE HD ULTRA 4K.
    So I don't have any problems with him. The blu-ray disc menu is working properly.
    Everything that is stated works properly. Software developers promptly respond to requests and correct identified bugs. The same cannot be said about the ZIDOO team . The menu is fully translated into all languages. You can roll back to any previous firmware without dancing with a tambourine.
    If everything suits you, then I'm happy for you. I am not satisfied with this attitude of the developer to the buyers of his products. This attitude does not make the name of the developer, but vice versa. For months, people have been writing requests and wishes to the developer, about localization of the translation, about the menu of the blues, etc. And instead of eliminating Important things, we make it possible to turn on and off the diode on the LAN port.
     
  8. DELUCAS

    DELUCAS Well-Known Member

    May i ask if the Dune 4K is working for you 100% without any issues at all why bother with the Zidoo ?
     
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  9. Yohmi

    Yohmi Member

    I'm a former Zappiti user and it always worked terrible and updates were very rare and minimal. And they won multiple awards.
    You consider menus to be important, I don't give a damn about menus. And when I really need to access a resource in a menu (if I'm too lazy to get to the m2ts) so far after a few tries it worked. But I understand some people want to see their bonus features, and it'd be awesome if it was possible, although it doesn't seem that easy to make it work. Just like Dune isn't able to fix the black levels of DV content (which is a much more important issue for me as I prefer movies over disc menus), Zidoo has a hard time to get those menus working. It's not like implementing a well known library, it's a secret recipe.

    I asked for several bug fixes and features here, nearly none were addressed. Yet, every update, and they were many, improved the overall experience, brought features and bug fixes which satisfies many people. Since that company doesn't evolve around my needs, and software coding isn't magic, with bug fixes and features sometimes being gigantic tasks to tackle with so little result (while some are probably very easy to implement. such as that LED status which seemed such an insulting improvement to you), I don't think I am in position to be that disregarding towards people's work. I don't know what's cooking. And I try to think about the people behind, what a reward to be treated like that for your work. If my customers, because they're unaware of what I'm doing really, of how hard some tasks can be but I can't show them, would be so unsupportive, unrewarding, unfriendly, well, I'd be totally demotivated, would work slowly and aimlessly. Being supportive produces much more results than being negative.
     
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  10. cVVGLabs

    cVVGLabs Active Member

    Of course you can.
    I paid for the product and I want to use it like any buyer, and not reinvent the wheel. Once again, DUNE fixes all the jambs in the software promptly. I'm not saying that ZIDOO sucks. But exactly as it is now, it is a raw product despite the fact that it has been out for a long time.
     
  11. cVVGLabs

    cVVGLabs Active Member

    Are you satisfied with the translation of the menu into your native language?
    You don't care about the menu, I don't have any blues, especially since it is stated, but it has not yet been implemented. To begin with, fix everything that is stated, and then move on to all kinds of improvements. And I want to personally ask you what personally gives you the opportunity to turn on and off the diode on the back panel? What kind of improvement is this in those characteristics? Well, it's not funny anymore.
     
  12. Petga

    Petga Member

    Basically, I am satisfied with my UHD3000. The device runs stably, there are no dropouts, it does not freeze, picture and sound are output excellently.
    I am not satisfied with the fact that, to date, menus from Blu-Ray ISOs are not played back in part and UHD ISOs almost without exception.
    This is particularly annoying with BDs with several episodes.
    Of course, you can select the episodes as chapters in the running (recognised) main film. But this should only be an emergency solution.
    As the name suggests, the UHD3000 is a "media player", so I expect all media to be played back in full (including all menus and extras, which is what Zidoo advertises ("Complete BD/BD3D/UHD Blu-ray menu playback").
    For me, these are the basic functions of a good (and expensive) media player.
    Poster Wall, Smart Music Library Roon, HomeTheater are all nice extras (which are, however, advertised by Zidoo and should therefore of course work) that will certainly please many users, but, in my opinion, do not belong to the basic functions of a media player. What bothers me most about Zidoo is the fact that there is no transparency whatsoever,if there are difficulties with the playback of menus or Covid has delayed the development, Zidoo can communicate this on its homepage and/or in this forum.But nothing happens and the users who have paid Zidoo (a lot of) money are left in the dark.So Zidoo does not need to complain when criticism arises, when there is no update for more than 4 months, or bugs are not fixed.2 or 3 sentences from Zidoo would have been enough to silence most of the criticism.By the way, rewinding in the film (ISO) usually doesn't work for me. It would be nice if Zidoo would take care of this too.
     
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  13. cVVGLabs

    cVVGLabs Active Member

    Petga - Straight to the point. I fully support you. The developer should not keep in the dark, but report what changes to expect in the next update and what problems already known to everyone will be fixed. And all those who write this is a difficult problem to fix, etc. - this is not an excuse. In the end, the developers do not give out their top products to everyone for free, but ask for a lot of money for it. So let him be kind enough to give feedback, and not be silent. Either the view of the new year, or something else. After all, is it a firm or a garage cooperative?
     
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  14. Vinny4K

    Vinny4K Active Member

    I read here that Zidoo is going for new players? Is anything already known about a new upcoming model?
     
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  15. Yohmi

    Yohmi Member

    Yes I am satisfied with the translation.
    The french version is made thanks to Temearoo's hard work, and while I think he's not satisfied with the pace translations are implemented in the software, from a final user point of view, it's great.
    My TV cost me 2000€ from a well known international brand and the menu is machine-translated, so I use it in english or the menu browsing is laughably awkward. And no reviewer has ever pointed it out.

    I don't care about the LED of the Zidoo, it didn't bother me before, it doesn't bother me know. Was it expensive, complicated to implement ? Maybe it took 2 hours of work. And made some customers happy, and helped a programmer understand more about the code, by a programmer which isn't qualified for BD menu task but very good at many other tasks needed for this product to work. While other tasks will require weeks, months, years of work, and from other developers.
    I really think this whole BD menu issue is a nightmare they're trying hard to solve for years but just haven't cracked the code yet. I suppose they're advertising it and that's why you sound so angry, and I agree they shouldn't advertise a feature which doesn't work properly. But if it was such a big issue, you had 15 days (I suppose, I think every country has different laws) to get your money back. I hope they're onto something, I wonder what's Dune's secret.

    As I said, there are numerous bug fixes and features I asked for and nearly none have been addressed (except Trakt, and that's awesome) and that's ok, the world doesn't evolve around me and my personal use and likeness.

    I hope someday I can scroll through my poster wall using digits, I wish the "watched" icon wasn't invisible on so many bright posters, I wish the "watched" history was working, I wish the system was able to display all the "unwatched" content in the "unwatched" view instead of treating "unwatched but started once" files like "watched" contents, I wish the "genre" filter was working, I wish the "country" filter was content aware instead of displaying countries out of nowhere and not those of my content, I wish I could see if movies have subtitles on the detailed view, I wish I could binge watch my series without skipping any content and without the player randomly going back to episode selection, I wish the screensaver wasn't randomly sending me back to the homescreen, I wish extra content was easier to manage and be easily assigned to any content, I wish I could by a long press resume play instead of having to chose between a popup every time or forget about it, I wish the CEC extinction could trigger Standby mode so the Z9X wouldn't boot several times a day, I wish the player could display HT4 by default, I wish this, I wish that, I even forget how many things I wish there was, bug fixes, features.

    But in the end, it works very well on my daily use case.
    All the equipments I own have flaws. My Mac, my NAS, my TV, my network audio player, my video game consoles, they all have at least two bugs I can instantly think of since their initial release which never got fixed and is a bummer every day. But I get along with it, I'm still better with it than without, and more importantly, I haven't found better yet.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2023
  16. Temearoo

    Temearoo Active Member

    What do you mean?

    You mean the Zidoo to start directly in HT4.0 or you are talking about something else?
     
  17. Yohmi

    Yohmi Member

    Unless there's a parameter I didn't find, series will only play episodes one after another if I enable skipping intro and outro by at least a few seconds (through the upper right corner icon with a guy running), and sometimes it fails (and the exact duration of the skipped window isn't respected by the way).

    And yes, I mean Zidoo displaying HT4 on startup instead of the Home Screen with explorer, settings etc. which I rarely need to access.
     
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  18. Ovidiu Ogrean

    Ovidiu Ogrean New Member

    And yes, I mean Zidoo displaying HT4 on startup instead of the Home Screen with explorer, settings etc. which I rarely need to access.[/QUOTE]

    You mean like: HOME SCREEN - APPS - highlight HT 4 - MENU - LAUNCH AT STARTUP?
     
  19. darkeyes909

    darkeyes909 Well-Known Member

    But your constant complaining seems like trolling. It comes off as more mean spirited than someone concerned with improving the product.
     
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  20. Temearoo

    Temearoo Active Member


    That's what I was thinking about for the second question (the launch at startup option). For the first one, you can play all the episodes of a season one after another automatically but I didn't try it with the skip intro/credits option activated yet.
     
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