Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos MKV bug - please acknowledge.

This is great news ! I guess the greatest improvement which would would be extremelly valuable for most users, would be for the new tool to be GUI based, and also to use the actual DV MKV FEL files generated by MakeMKV (staying away from the need of using the original M2TS files).

 

Yes, things are moving quite fast - I am standing by for Zidoo to fix the DV-Atmos issue, in order to start converting several DV UHD disks to MKV MEL.

 

Interestingly I got hold of a remux of the new UHD of the first Hobbit movie. It's remuxed to DV and has Dolby Atmos sound. Played about 10 minutes on my Z9X in in DV and Atmos with no stutter!

Code:

General
Unique ID                                : 59893889510226891940353297994197200526 (0x2D0F24BE5704D6D515DCA628700B6E8E)
Complete name                            : Z:\The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4
File size                                : 69.4 GiB
Duration                                 : 3 h 2 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 54.5 Mb/s
Movie name                               : The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) Extended Cut DV
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-11-29 22:02:12
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v51.0.0 ('I Wish') 64-bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.4.0 + libmatroska v1.6.2
IMDB                                     : tt0903624
TMDB                                     : movie/49051

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 3 h 2 min
Bit rate                                 : 49.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.249
Stream size                              : 63.1 GiB (91%)
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 801 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 188 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray

Audio #1
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID                                 : A_TRUEHD
Duration                                 : 3 h 2 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 3 403 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 5 616 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 4.34 GiB (6%)
Title                                    : TrueHD Atmos 7.1
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

 

One possibility is that the Hobbit is a FEL MKV DV file, which is only recognized and played as HDR10 on the Zidoo, thus no stutter (no matter what the audio codec is).

I understand only MEL MKV DV files are currently properly recognized as DV, which do stutter with ATMOS track.

 

It plays in DV on the Z9X - not HDR10. Atmos sound and no stutter after 10 minutes whereas usually stutters every time after about 3.

 

i can second this thou mine was stuttering within 5 mins
but both tv and zidoo showed dolby vision and dolby atmos


Restart same file choose 5.1 audio and no stutter audio lags for 30 mins i let run testing

 

hi,

I watched 45 minutes of ''the hobbit the battle of the five armies'' MKV DV remux with Atmos soundtrack and no stutter, no glitches, this is one of the videos that I remuxed to remove the 2 PGS.
(The.Hobbit.The.Battle.of.the.Five.Armies.2014.EXTENDED.2160p.UHD.DOLBY.VISION.REMUX.HDR.HEVC.MULTi.VFi.DTS-HDMA.7.1.x265-EXTREME)

My tv has switched to dolby vision, the picture quality is amazing, as well as the Atmos sound, tomorrow i watch the whole movie.

See you

 

OK false alarm. This remux played fine for nearly 10 minutes before developing a a sort of video skip every few seconds. Different glitch than other DV MKV's but a glitch nevertheless

Ah well - hope Zidoo can fix this

 

So you got hold of The.Hobbit.The.Battle.of.the.Five.Armies.2014.EXTENDED.2160p.UHD.DOLBY.VISION.REMUX.HDR.HEVC.MULTi.VFi.DTS-HDMA.7.1.x265-EXTREME and then removed the PGS tracks?

What tool did you use to remove the PGS?

 

im running hobbit 1.. thru MKVtoolnix now to remove pgs subs see if it helps ill post back edit in 30 or so

 

Same here! However very late so off to bed.

 

2 30pm wednesday i got time ill let ya know if mkvtoolnix works
grabbing extreme version atm to see differences and test too

 

Yes and I used mkvtoolnix with the advice of ghostshadow

thanks to Ghostshadow

 

20 mins in after removing the PGS subs from Hobbit 1 and smooth as

Dobly vision /dolby atmos zero stutters or audio lags

BUT
i have also tried this on other movies with the atmos/DV stutters and didnt solve it

heres the media info incase someone can see why its working

EDIT
23ish mins in and theres some stutter..thou audio stays in synch
its not the serious unplayable stutter but enuff to still shut movie down in frustration
still ALOT closer to a working DV DA file

eneral
Unique ID : 162106313262521415955044268171062814463 (0x79F48A505B65758239FB153E737A26FF)
Complete name : J:\Dolby Vision Movies\The.Hobbit.An.Unexpected.Journey.2012.Extended.Cut.DV.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 68.4 GiB
Duration : 3 h 2 min
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 53.6 Mb/s
Movie name : The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) Extended Cut DV
Encoded date : UTC 2020-12-02 01:20:19
Writing application : mkvmerge v50.0.0 ('Awakenings') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.4.0 + libmatroska v1.6.2
IMDB : tt0903624
TMDB : movie/49051

Video
ID : 1
ID in the original source medium : 4113 (0x1011)
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 3 h 2 min
Bit rate : 49.5 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.249
Stream size : 63.1 GiB (92%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 801 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 188 cd/m2
Original source medium : Blu-ray

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 3 h 2 min
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 3 403 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 5 616 kb/s
Channel(s) : 8 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 1 200.000 FPS (40 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream size : 4.34 GiB (6%)
Title : TrueHD Atmos 7.1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Number of dynamic objects : 11
Bed channel count : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration : LFE

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 3 h 2 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 kb/s
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 585 MiB (1%)
Title : AC-3 5.1-EX
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : No
Forced : No

Audio #3
ID : 4
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 3 h 2 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 18 ms
Stream size : 251 MiB (0%)
Title : Commentary by director Peter Jackson and writer Philippa Boyens
Language : English
Service kind : Complete Main
Default : No
Forced : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:1. Prologue: The Fall of Erebor
00:10:11.569 : en:2. "In a hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit"
00:14:08.347 : en:3. Very Old Friends
00:17:26.921 : en:4. Mr. Baggins
00:18:44.290 : en:5. An Unexpected Party
00:23:16.270 : en:6. "Blunt the knives"
00:27:59.136 : en:7. A map, a Key and a Contract
00:36:04.537 : en:8. "Misty Mountains"
00:41:16.933 : en:9. "...The World Ahead"
00:46:30.496 : en:10. The Battle of Azanulbizar
00:53:03.847 : en:11. Radagast the Brown
00:58:07.317 : en:12. Trollshaws
00:59:54.966 : en:13. Roast Mutton
01:10:42.071 : en:14. A Troll-Hoard
01:15:01.497 : en:15. The Hill of Sorcery
01:18:52.478 : en:16. Warg-Scouts
01:24:56.591 : en:17. Rivendell
01:30:34.095 : en:18. A Short Rest
01:34:10.270 : en:19. Moon Runes
01:37:24.130 : en:20. The Defiler
01:39:03.146 : en:21. The Last Homely House
01:41:40.469 : en:22. The White Council
01:50:22.199 : en:23. "Why the Halfling?"
01:52:59.439 : en:24. Over Hill
01:59:06.014 : en:25. Under Hill
02:03:57.180 : en:26. The Great Goblin
02:09:51.242 : en:27. Riddles in the Dark
02:23:21.092 : en:28. Biter and Beater
02:25:18.543 : en:29. The Ring
02:26:30.865 : en:30. Escape from Goblin Town
02:30:52.585 : en:31. The Pity of Bilbo
02:33:00.213 : en:32. "Home is Behind..."
02:35:52.260 : en:33. Out of the Frying Pan...
02:46:50.876 : en:34. A Good Omen
02:52:21.039 : en:35. Credits

 

ran LOTR part 1 thru MKV tollnix to remove pgs subs

This time it didnt fix the issue still stuttery and audio lagging by couple secs after 5 mins ish

 

Hi, can’t believe you are openly talking about piracy, this is why Dolby doesn't support Dolby Vision in MKV.

Can you please only discuss titles you have ripped yourself please or move to PM, then if Zidoo needs to know how they where ripped you can provide the info, no one knows how these pirate copies where prepared.

 

ta updated MKVtoolnix and re running Hobbit pt 1 to remove PGS subs...ill retest the finished file tomorrow ..bed now

 

Didn't work for me on The Hobbit - first film. Removed all PGS but same with them included. Plays fine for about 10 minutes then picture starts to momentarily freeze skip. Audio unaffected.

I can use PLEX on the Shield!

 

Hello Ghostshadow,

why some video files have no problem after 45 minutes ? While up until now the problem with the Atmos soundtrack starts from the first minutes.

it could be due to chance...or the technique used ?

See you

 

Why zidoo cant solve shuttering problem?
Or zidoo will solve this problem?