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Discussion in 'Eversolo DMP-A10' started by Rv_graphik, Oct 15, 2024.

  1. PolarLight

    PolarLight Member

    It's going to be a really big purchase.
     
  2. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Well-Known Member

    Power supply noise in the output is not good engineering.
    Keith
     
  3. Jjb067

    Jjb067 Active Member

    The MagnaHiFi site now lists the A10 with a price of 3123 Eur excl VAT. It specifies an ESS9039 PRO DAC chip not AK. Just one HDMI port for ARC, but the text detail mentions another one for I2S but not obvious in the picture shown for the rear. A bit more detail on the DDC functions, with say USB or other digital in coupled with SPDIF digital out now possible even with EQ applied if you want. The room correction apparently can utilise a separate calibration microphone plugged into a USB port of the A10 directly. Mobile phone microphone also allowed, but whether all models permitted not stated.
     
  4. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    https://magnahifi.com/eversolo-dmp-a10-high-end-streamer-es9039-pro-dac/

    OK that is at least informative. The Digital-to-Digital is explained here with a diagram.
    It justifies a bit more the price.

    A10 Digital Input-to-Digital Output.JPG

    It for sure uses the ES9039 Pro and not the AKM4499 anymore.

    It also includes (as guessed by me before) an ADC to convert the Analog inputs to Digital. So all inputs make use of the Equalizer plus Room Correction for output via the Internal DAC and Subwoofer outputs.
    Digital output is here listed as SPDIF only?

    New questions:
    - Won't DDC work with that USB DAC Digital output? It is nowhere in this picture.
    - Where is the XMOS intermediate processing applied in this picture? Before room correction I presume?
    - I2S HDMI output is again in the specifications but not in any of the pictures. I guess it is simply not there anymore. HDMI DSD/Audio is not there for sure.
    - How are those subwoofer outputs driven. I would expect them to be digital fed via 2 dedicated extra DAC/R2R channels (not like suggested in the picture here).
    - How suitable is that DSP AK7739VQ Chip for room correction? It is the same used with the A8 just as an equalizer there. My AMP uses multiple DSP's to do those same combined tasks.

    USB Input / Outputs are specified as isolated which is a good feature. Above all desktop/tower PC's may benefit from this where connected via USB.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2024
  5. Imaodoloro

    Imaodoloro Active Member

    just an overpriced update or is there a lot more to it than I thought?
     
  6. SausageDog

    SausageDog Active Member

    Of course there is: the marvellous new alien spaceship shaped silvery remote, with the exact same front face and buttons of the A6/A8 one but most likely rechargeable via USB! ;)

    [​IMG]
     
  7. PolarLight

    PolarLight Member

    When I saw this remote control, I immediately had associations... with a female instrument for spoiled girls, hee-hee-hee [​IMG]
     
  8. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    It is not an update but a new concept: All combinations of setups can use that room correction including subwoofer driving it seems. It all depends now how well that in fact sounds in practice.

    Putting room correction integral at the digital audio source is the correct place no doubt about that. This above all integrated with a top class DAC. It does not make much sense using it with an external DAC of any type.
    So yes it is a unique piece of equipment potentially worth that kind of money compared with other existing solutions.
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2024
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  9. RolandG

    RolandG Active Member


    Is that what they call "The Weave"?
     
  10. Glerup71

    Glerup71 Active Member

    I couldn't have written that better myself, you just can't always measure up to sound quality!
    There are so many parameters that can have an influence, if you use, for example, an ESS or AKM dac chip, here the ESS chip can tease a little if it does not have optimal working conditions,
    and develop the so-called "ESS glare" which gives a slightly artificial Midtone & treble, and you just can't measure up to that
     
  11. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Well-Known Member

    I think you would enjoy these,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimms'_Fairy_Tales

    Keith
     
  12. Mister L

    Mister L Active Member

    MUST BE RUSSIANS! OR DONALD TRUMP? OR ELON MUSK? NO! BILL GATES!
     
  13. PolarLight

    PolarLight Member

    Sorry, but what do the Russians have to do with it? [​IMG] For example, I am Russian! But I don't like Amir [​IMG]
     
  14. Funkyone80

    Funkyone80 Member

    You must go for Stalingrad
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2024
  15. mirak

    mirak Member

    From Paris Audio Video Show :

    20241027_101219.jpg 20241027_101442.jpg
     
  16. mirak

    mirak Member

    Captures from a video on YT
     
  17. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    So the front pictures were real from the start including those heat sinks.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2024
  18. Imaodoloro

    Imaodoloro Active Member

    Personally, I don't like the display in the volume button
     
  19. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    With just the volume level on it it is fine for me. Most likely it can be dimmed?
     
  20. Imaodoloro

    Imaodoloro Active Member

    no one needs the useless display in the volume control, the big case with heatsinks that serve no purpose,
    glass plate on top
    all the useless gimmicks that increase the price.
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2024

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