All you need to know about RTD1619BPD and RTD1619DR based players

No they all share the same SOC (motherboard) and produce the same picture. They have a better e.g. chassis, PSU, more ports and UHD3000 a HiFi stereo DAC panel.

 

Hi, have you tried with different usb hubs or did it work with the first one you entered?

 

Only English please .

 

Is the 3000 actually for sale anywhere?

 

In Europe they are on stock on several places. Only Neo X could be End Of Sale?

 

I need some help clearing up DSD compatibility. I have read a few threads a few times and what to make sure I understand the differences between the Z1000 Pro vs. UHD3000. I have a lot of SACD rips and DSD downloads., many are multi-channel. I play them through my Oppo 203, but that is a hassle. I also have nVidia Shield I use with Kodi, but am sick of Kodi issues. I am looking at these 2 Zidoo players and have some questions about the DAC and DSD. If I want to play the DSD files off my NAS through the Zidoo to my AVR. It looks like the only thing the Zidoo will do is convert it to PCM and send it out HDMI. If I have the UHD3000 does it use the DAC to do that or the DAC is only used to route out the Analog outs? Will the UHD3000 provide any benefit (especially for DSD) if I am only sending audio via HDMI?

Second question. Will either Zidoo play multi-channel FLAC files? As I convert all my DSD to FLAC as well?

Thanks.

 

Since the last FW update all Zidoo models finally will play MCH SACD/DSD via DSD => PCM conversions directly. No need to convert those to FLAC anymore. MCH FLAC plays just fine too on all models.

Neo Players and UHD3000 will play DSD native without any conversion via the DAC and next output via Analog RCA/XLR ports. They all have excellent DAC's with my judged order: Neo S, UHD3000, Neo Alpha and Neo X at the top of the range. Unless you have a very good/expensive AMP these will be (considerable) better.

Only Neo Alpha and Neo X have an improved motherboard using more precise clocking and will produce improved sound via HDMI. This is clearly audible. Even better than using that OPPO. Have all of these players myself except the Neo S.

Hardly use my OPPO anymore with DVD-Audio being the exception. Occasionally convert those to MCH FLAC but that ia a real hazzle. I you have a single good APP for that please enlighten me,

 

Not the case for the Neo S ?

 

OK, got my Z1000 Pro set up. Says it is at the latest firmware. Plays my 2 channel DSD files as PCM fine, but none of my multichannel DSD files will play at all, says unsupported file format. Does not matter if it was a SACD rip or purchased from NativeDSD.

What am I doing wrong?

 

@Hdkeith are you playing via the Media Player or the Music Player? - you need to play using the latter and check your Zidoo's Sound Settings

 

I am on 6.3.60 firmware. I am using the Music Player. MCH FLAC works great, just my MCH DSD file says invalid format. 2CH DSD plays fine. I have set HDMI audio to RAW, tried Auto made no difference. Have USB and SPIF off. Have tried most combinations, but all MCH DSD just show as I support format.


Some initial observations;

- Remote is huge and a bit cheaply made.
- I wish there was a Amy to tell it to only use embedded metadata, I spent a lot of time over the years making sure metadata was correct.
- not sure why every movie has subtitles on and I have to turn them off, one would think that would not be the case. I still need to play more.

 

So far this is a great unit and I can see my Oppo 203 being retired. It would support Native DSD decoding this would be killer device. If I can get my multichannel DSD working I am golden. Worst case I will convert them to MCH FLAC.

Dumb question. When the unit convert DSD or MCH FLAC is the DAC being used? In other words would the UHD3000 do a better job of these conversions, other this is strictly an in flight CPU conversion?

I am disappointed I did not discover Zidoo before as my Shields bd Kodi have been giving me fits for ages.

 

Firstly, upgrade to 6.4.20 firmware - if you tick allow beta in the Settings, it should update over OTA.
This firmware includes the latest Music Player 7, so that should fix most of your music issues.
As far are subtitles go, you need to change Settings and turn them off (there are two places)

 

thanks, I will give that a try.

 

That worked, thanks! Awesome device. Wish it supported embedded media and I would be all set. Blows the doors off Shield with Kodi.

 

Not sure what you mean by "embedded media" but you can certainly install most Android apps, if there is one that meets your needs.

 

You said your Z1000 Pro was using the latest firmware lol. Glad you got sorted

 

Sorry meant embedded metadata I have painfully made sure every one of my media files has art and descriptions in them. I have it set to prioritize.no but I think Emby’s created .no files are non-standard as I have seen issue with other apps. I believe Kodi had a setting to use embedded metadata. Also on the wish list would be support for Emby as my database since all my Shields have Kodi and point to Emby.


I need to play some more and see what I can work out. So far loving the device; I can see my Oppo 203 going away.

 

I assume you are talking about .nfo files? If you have a lot of Kodi experience (like I did), then also install ZDMC which is a fork of Kodi 19.4 that uses the Zidoo internal player.
You may be surprised

 

I may try that. And yea I meant .nfo files, I have embedded metadata and then Emby uses that to create the .nfo files, but it looks like Zidoo may not have liked those. Going to play around today as I have a spare Shield I can experiment with as well.