Eversolo News & Updates Thread

Discussion in 'Eversolo' started by Eki Shaw, Dec 2, 2024.

  1. stevenskl

    stevenskl Member

    And 360 reality audio and Auro 3D. Right ow the nvidia Shield is the only streamer, if you want to listen to music from Homepage - Artist Connection !?!
     
  2. TODD LEWIS

    TODD LEWIS Member

    I use fire TV and Amazon music currently and send to AVP
     
  3. stevenskl

    stevenskl Member

    As far as I can tell, a Fire TV (I have a Cube gen. 3) cannot stream Auro from Homepage - Artist Connection, because they are using the new Auro CX codec.
    Anyway, as soon as Eversolo is supporting immersive sound formats, I´m ready to buy something like the A6.
     
  4. Eki Shaw

    Eki Shaw Active Member Zidoo TECH Supporter

    Applause Award for Eversolo DMP-A10!![​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    A big thanks to StereoNET and Eric Teh for the excellent review[​IMG]
    "Eversolo’s new DMP-A10 flagship streaming DAC delivers fine sound for the money, with improved soundstaging and higher resolution compared to the A8. Factor in its great feature count and lavish build quality, and this is a compelling purchasing proposition."
    --Eric Teh
    Full Review: https://eversolo.short.gy/DMP-A10-StereoNET-Review
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  5. stevenskl

    stevenskl Member

    I have the problem that Atmos music on Amazon Music is so much lower volume (and sounds "bloodless") that it´s not much fun. At least you can listen to those tracks and then buy the BluRay. Anyway Atmos and non-Atmos is mixed in one album, and if you go from an Atmos track to a stereo track, the volume difference is so dramatic that it´s hard to listen to such albums.
    Did you find any solution to this problem in your setup?
     
  6. ColtrColtrane63

    ColtrColtrane63 New Member

    Does this happen to you with all the tracks? Many ATMOS versions have a lower compression level, this generates a lower average level but with greater difference between minimum and maximum levels.
     
  7. stevenskl

    stevenskl Member

    Yes, with all I have listened to.
    I also tried Tidal a while ago and there were at least some Atmos tracks with more or less "normal" levels. But the actual music that was in Atmos was not something I would listen to. On Amazon, however, there are many Atmos tracks with music I like.
    But the levels are so low that even with my Cinema 30 it´s hard to get it loud enough.
    Totally different to BluRay music in Atmos. I have listened to Gabriel´s I/O and it sounds great.
    You may be right about "greater difference between minimum and maximum levels" , but that would only make sense, if the loudest part is as loud as in stereo tracks. But that´s not the case at all on Amazon Atmos music.
     
  8. _ROM_

    _ROM_ New Member

    Hello,

    I would like to request the inclusion of a new function in the DMP-6 Gen2:

    Crossfade between songs in the internal player as PowerAmp does for example.

    Would it be possible?

    Thank you very much.
     
  9. Nutul

    Nutul Well-Known Member

    Do not cross-post. One place is enough.
     
  10. Eki Shaw

    Eki Shaw Active Member Zidoo TECH Supporter

    Have forwarded the advice to the tech team. Thanks
     
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  11. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Squeezebox has a nice solution called Smart Crossfade where successive tracks played from the same album do not crossfade as this would be highly undesirable under almost all circumstances, especially for gapless tracks!!

    I use MusicIP to create realtime playlists based on a audio "fingerprint" and crossfade in that instance is great.

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  12. WDitters

    WDitters Member

    Between using my A8 with a Gustard R26 and a LAiV R2R DACs, when I use an i2s connection, on the LAiV the DSD channels L+R are reversed. This does not happen on the R26.
    This by the way is not unique. Channel reversal on DSD is not limited to LAiV, but occurs on a regular basis with various suppliers and products.
    In the past, after my discovery, Davy Wentzler for instance did introduce the option to reverse L+R channels in UAPP in case DSD was played on a a Hiby DAP ...

    So @Eki Shaw Would it be possible to introduce an option for L+R channel reversal for DSD in the A8 I2S options?

    update: the issue above only occurs over i2s. On USB all is fine
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2025
  13. Nutul

    Nutul Well-Known Member

    Since (as I understand) it does not happen with the Gustard, what makes you want Eversolo to make the change/improvement, and not the LAiV...?
    Pure curiosity.
     
  14. WDitters

    WDitters Member

    Valid question, but simple answer .. this is easier to implement at the Android level than in the firmware of a DAC .. And this issue may not be limited to LAiV, so having a bit more flexibility at the source level will help future-proofing Eversolo …
     
  15. Nutul

    Nutul Well-Known Member

    You are somehow right, from a simple-solution POV. But I prefer to fix the problems, not find workarounds. If a device is flawed and swaps the left and right channels, you cannot pretend that any other manufacturer implements a channel swap for convenience, right?
     
  16. WDitters

    WDitters Member

    Completely correct. I therefore also raised the issue with the swapped L+R channels with LAiV.

    As an avid A8 user however I would love to have more control over the configuration of the A8 I2s interface as that is relatively limited, especially since I2s lacks the degree of standardisation that USB has. I know streamers that have way more configuration options in the I2s area and by that allowing more control over possible pairing scenarios.

    As a side comment, a few years back I also discovered this issue with Hiby DAPs and their standard behaviour with (any) external USB DAC … I worked with Davy Wentzler who develops UAPP for Android resulting in UAPP automatically swapping DSD channels when a Hiby/Cayin DAP was detected. That feature has been a standard feature ever since.

    And as a second comment, I hope that by combining knowledge from both LAiV and Eversolo we can figure out where the root cause lies. I have no other I2s source unfortunately so I can only swap DACs and cables, not sources …

    note: the L/R reversal issue only occurs over I2s, on USB all is fine
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2025
  17. Nutul

    Nutul Well-Known Member

    Oh, sorry, I didn't focus on the fact that the issue is for I2S.
    As you say, it lacks standardisation. The reason why should be clear to anybody; as I2S is a signal interface designed to be used between chips on the same board (so you connect chip-pins, not connector-wires...)
    The fact that is being used between devices more and more should make somebody sit at a table and define a connector and wiring standard; but as I said, since everybody is using it for something it was not designed for, nobody really feels the need of standardising something that shouldn't be there in the first place...
    I for one would make a man-in-the-middle slot, allowing for wiring up the connector, putting what signal to what pin; but still, for this to work, there should be some sort of agreement among all the users/supporters of I2s (manufacturers, of course).

    Just my point of view. I am a huge, gargantuan fan of USB, for numerous reasons, first of which is it is a standard.
     
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  18. WDitters

    WDitters Member

    I know .. but I2s sounds so damn good
     
  19. WDitters

    WDitters Member

    Meanwhile I got word back from LAiV..

    Regarding the DSD channel reversal, the Harmony DAC follows the I²S pin out configuration from PS Audio, and they’ve thoroughly tested its channel polarity to be correct. From what they’ve found, the Gustard R26 uses a reversed polarity for the DSD pin, which likely means the A8 has a similar configuration.

    This would explain why the DSD L+R channels sound correct when using the A8 with the Gustard R26, but appear reversed when using the Harmony DAC. It specifically comes down to DSD DATA L+ - and DSD DATA R + - (as these are only used for DSD signals)

    (For PCM, the system relies on DATA+, DATA-, LRCK+, and LRCK- instead, and there the channel order is correct. L+R are where they are supposed to be ..)

    @Eki Shaw Anything you guys are able to do on the A8 side? In I2s modes or at Android level?
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2025
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  20. bradbort

    bradbort Member

    Two more suggestions related to SSD and ripping CDs.

    1. Allow changing root directory to be renamed after it is created. Also allow folks to drag and drop rips into different directory names after created.
    2. When I burn CD's the auto genre categorization does not seem to be working. That would be ok, if there was a way to assign Genre after the fact.
     

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