EDID thread (RTD1619DR players)

Hi,

Does someone get the following EDID but for 800Nits and 600Nits?

BT.2020 1,000nit LLDV and HDR10+

https://mega.nz/file/FCJRjTbR#LFWDK1DX6Xzn4tn3IIg6WTsPpfH4-yStvPayZ0H0FO8

Thanks for your help.

 

100 - 10,000 nits:

https://mega.nz/file/pGYGWSoY#kp4c8ejSRHX2ucLizQ2kFhcxGJvqEscRbsWYr9yoyy8

 

Thanks for your work Mark

 

No sweat

 

I have a shield pro and a Zidoo Z9X input to a Denon X4700 which feeds my JVC NZ9. My HDD stores Mkv rips accessed through hardwire cat6 into both Zidoo and shield. I am trying to see the benefits of the z9X primarily with sending LLDV. Otherwise the picture with the shield is awesome.

Zidoo is set to match frame rate only and I’ve tried many of the VS10 settings. Not much talk about the mapping selection in Zidoo here. It did well, but a bit over saturated IMO. Also what is it? Does the Z9X and not the PJ do the mapping? What’s Mapping inVS 10 then?

I also have not touched the EDID. No idea which one on page 1 here to use in my situation. The projector also has a AB and C selections for EDID. Confusing.
I’d appreciate any help from those in the know, and with similar setups.

 

Not really sure what the question is, but with your setup, ostensibly you'd expect to use HDR Auto because the NZ9 is excellent at dealing with SDR and HDR.

That would mean that SDR, HDR10(+), DV Profile 7/8 would all be output natively (in the case of P7/8 DV, the base layer is used). For DV Profile 5, VS10 converts to HDR10.

However, if you want to fiddle, there's some mileage to be had from trying, as you suggest, LLDV and also VS10 SDR. As I've said before, the best HDR any projector can muster is SDR so something has to tone map and VS10 is rather good at it. But it's a bit of a learning curve...

 

Just wonder about the mapping feature, and which EDID settings to use or even if I need to try an EDID.

Thanks

 

That's the one absolutely positively not to use!

That uses the Realtek engine to convert SDR to HDR10 and the colourspace conversion from 709 to 2020 is terrible. Tone mapping isn't bad, but it's not as good as VS10. HDR10 is passed through and DV (profile 5) is converted using VS10.

If you want everything in HDR10 then use VS10 engine for all content - if you don't use a custom EDID, because the PJ EDID is HDR, that means VS10 converts everything to HDR10.

You only need to use a custom EDID if you want to use LLDV or convert everything to SDR.

 

Ok, no that’s why I posted some scene examples. The lower right screen grab with mapping was oversaturated.
I will probably end up using VS10 for all content (until I can’t stand the fan on high) as well as trying out a custom EDID for DV movies.

I have an HDfury Vertex2 still in the box, but not sure if it’ll be worth the bother inserting it in the system.
Thanks for your help.

 

If you have it there, I thoroughly recommend connecting it - it will make using LLDV a whole lot easier, and even if you don't, it's worth every penny and then some just for diagnostics and knowing what's going where and why.

 

Ok, I’ll give it a shot. So many settings. So much info in the forums.
Good stuff.
I’ll be back with questions though!

 

That’s it, I want to use LLDV. Which custom EDID? Or do I just try the Sony one?
How can I tell if my mkv rips are profile5?

 

On the subject of EDID what software shows the EDID details of a TV for example? Or when you download the EDID from the Zidoo?

 

I just received my zidoo z1000pro (bought this to get dynamic HDR to my samsung display) and while setting up, opened a canned of worms . I would like to consult the forum on the best HDR settings for below setup:

Here is my setup:
zidoo z1000pro (I watch all DV, HDR10, HDR10+ sources) > denon 3500 (no hdr10+ passthru support?) > samsung qn90b (no DV)

1) Is there a way with custom EDID to push HDR10+ to my display?
2) For HDR10+ and DV, should i use VS10 to get dynamic HDR on the display? also with EDID?

Thx!

 

No, you don't use the Sony one. There're a couple of PDFs explaining the procedure here:

http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?thr...for-rtd1619-players-vs10-sdr-pdf-added.82695/

Use MediaInfo.

 

I use Deltacast E-EDID Editor

https://www.deltacast.tv/products/free-software/e-edid-editor

and Advantiv EEditGold

https://ez.analog.com/video/w/documents/750/advantiv-edid-editor

 

OK, I've trawled a number of pages and searched but not sure I've found the answer or understood it

I'm using an Epson TW9400 and a Denon X3700h. The TW9400 is HDR10 capable and supports BT.2020. I'm playing a mixture of HDR10, HDR10+ and DV UHDs.

What EDID do I use and what settings for the best HDR image, without washed-out colours or being very dark? For example, using the stock BT.2020 custom EDID it becomes very dark (HOTD is unwatchable for example).

The projector has been professionally calibrated prior to the Zidoo unit, so am wondering how I ensure I get the best image out of it now with the Zidoo. Thanks!

 

I don't have any experience of the Epson 9400 so don't know how well it reproduces HDR, but if it has been correctly calibrated and if its HDR performance is good then there is no reason to use a custom EDID. Just set HDR to auto and the projector should take care of itself.

In that case, SDR will be SDR, HDR10 will be HDR10 and DV will either be the HDR10 layer or converted by VS10 to HDR10 depending what profile DV it is.

In terms of image, the only reason to use a custom EDID is either to try the LLDV trick or to feed the projector SDR Rec.709 from the VS10 engine.

 

Hi Mark,

I got some questions:

- I am using yours Edid LLDV BT2020 + HDR10+ from 100 to 10000Nits. It works fine (I got DV 12bits 4:2:2 output). However my projector do not switch automatically in HDR mode. It seems Edid DolbyVision flag set to "ON" but HDR flag is set to "OFF". Is it possible to upgrade the Edid LLDV to flag HDR to "ON" in order the projector switch automatically in HDR when I am playing DV content? For instance when I am using VS10 ouput the projector switch in HDR.

- Which max Nits is used by VS10 Engine when processing HDR content? 1000Nits?

 

I'm afraid that the EDID is not responsible for HDR switching. That requires the source to spit out what's called an SEI message (Supplemental Enhancement Information) which is basically a hex string that tells the display what sort of HDR signal the source is sending.

Because the Zidoo is fooled into thinking the display is LLDV, it spits out an LLDV signal which does not include this message so the only way to get around that is either to switch the display into its HDR mode manually (not all displays allow this) or use an HDFury device to send a dummy SEI message.

1000nits is probably the best to use and you match that with a 1000bit HDR mode in the display.