All you need to know about the new RTD1619DR (Z9X, Z10 Pro, Z1000 Pro, UHD3000, Neo) models

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by Nice Monkey, Aug 17, 2020.

  1. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Everything new known coming with RTD1619DR based players is being bundled here.

    My experiences are in effect based on my own Z9X and UHD3000 but HW changes for other models were added for completeness.
    This topic will be updated constantly with progressing insight by myself and others.
    So coming back is recommended. It is not intended for any bug reporting in general or specifically related to this FW.

    See also the online manual in development for zidoo players.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zmtbJk_pQHyNFjT9KnxMQPCi1ouvFT_uWWQC6DGcl98/edit
    To be filled.

    Everything that worked on previous models works on the new onces too, unless stated in this overview specifically.
    The most recent update is based on FW 6.3.50_G for features and functions unless stated otherwise.

    Z9X reviews with pictures, menu's etc.
    http://mediaplayers.gr/zidoo-z9x/
    https://androidpctv.com/review-zidoo-z9x-opinion/
    https://tvboxstop.com/2020-tv-boxes...flix-in-hd-4k-on-full-mobile-version-android/
    Some work in progress here:
    https://www.avforums.com/threads/zi...-pro-dolby-vision-vs10-owners-thread.2287438/
    In Spanish (but including extensive tests of streaming services):
    https://androidpc.es/review-zidoo-z9x-opinion/

    More will be added when I find/get links

    The HW changes in a nutshell compared with equivalent RTD1296 based models:
    All models share the same motherboard (except UHD3000) but unused connectors/components are deleted per model.

    The standard PSU shipped by Zidoo was changed to an universal type with easy changeable regional power grid plugs.

    Power calculations at 12V 2A =24W peak power with the new standard brick type PSU:
    - USB2 max 2.5W per port
    - USB3 max 4W per port
    - SATA internal/external is about 10W average per 3.5 HDD and above 15W when starting up.
    - System is about 7W sustained when running APPs
    I personally don't like PSU's running above 50% continuous load as they tend to (over)heat, produce rippled output and fail early over time.
    Solved this myself by moving to a shared 2x 12V 5A Linear Power Supply instead of using many small brick/powerplug type adapters:
    http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/the-ultimate-psu-replacement-shared-2x-60w-linear-psu.81887/
    Using an 4A 12V Earthed power supply is recommended by me for Z9X and Z10 Pro. That will also allow plug&play HDD's (doing an Eject obviously).

    Model Z9X:

    - The color changed but the same non-removable antennas remained (matching color)
    - One SATA connector was deleted and replaced by air holes for cooling
    - The PSU was reduced regarding size to 12V 2A (was 3A) which will now just do with one SATA HDD connected. There is no spare power specifically if USB ports are loaded too.

    Model Z10 Pro

    - The color changed, the striping was deleted and the Zidoo logo on the front Raised / 3D look.
    - The PSU was reduced regarding size to 12V 2A (was 3A) which will now just do with one SATA HDD connected.
    - The Flash was increased to 32 GByte
    There is no spare power left specifically if USB ports are fully loaded too or a second SATA HDD is connected (don't try a hot HDD swap under those conditions). I highly recommend to replace the PSU with a 12V 4A (earthed) unit when using this model with 2x SATA HDD"s.
    Other specifications remained identical: HDD Slot, big Front Display and a Fan.

    Model Z1000 Pro
    - The model was upgraded to be a High End (like X20 before) including the fancy Black GUI/Launcher home page.
    - The standard V7 IR Remote was replaced by the V8 BT Remote coming with High End models
    - The Flash was increased to 32 GByte
    Other specifications remained the same: Excellent internal earthed 12V 5A PSU, internal antennas and the fancy sturdy chassis in black. This PSU will remain within the safety region under all foreseeable conditions. Audio and Video quality will (potentially) benefit from it too.

    Model UHD3000

    This model went through a big number of changes despite looking almost the same as before:
    - The PSU is actually a hybrid 66W version now: Switched mode for the HDD's power and a Linear PSU with subsections for DAC digital, DAC analog and mainboard electronics sharing a single transformer. Reducing power consumption / heat production.
    - The cooling fan moved from the back to central at the bottom improving airflow
    - The front display got an extra ICON for DAC on/off indication
    - The DAC and PSU where upgraded to better designs and using better components.
    - The SABRE DAC itself is upgraded to an ES9068 supporting MQA decoding in HW now
    - An USB-IN port for external DAC access was added
    - The USB3c port on UHD2000 is now degraded to just a regular USB3 and HDMI-IN was dropped

    Model Neo X

    This is a totally new top end HiFi model and not a successor of a previous generation model
    - The PSU is a Dual Linear power supply with at a guessed 60W power
    - It has a 5-inch OLED fully programmable front display and is designed to work without a TV connected.
    - It has a (superfluous) small fan at the back. The total chassis functions as a huge heatsink
    - It has odd sizing with the depth being bigger than its width and is very heavy
    - It uses the ES9038PRO chip and XMOS XU216 including MQA support
    - The DAC build is optimal regarding design and components based on standard available best in-class market components
    - It comes with only 2GByte RAM and 16 GByte of Flash, has no HDMI-in and no 2nd HDMI output ports being below UHD3000 specifications

    FW features are currently almost identical for all 5 models but High End models may get some FW functional differentiation over time beyond the GUI I was told by Zidoo.

    These 5 models share the same RTD1619DR SOC. UHD3000 has a modified motherboard dealing with its bigger 4GByte RAM and DAC panel interface. NeoX has an entirely different motherboard.
    - Support for VP9 Profile 2 e.g. used by YouTube 4K HDR
    - 50% added CPU processing power using a Cortex 6-core A55
    - 50% added GPU processing power via the Mali-G51 MP4 GPU
    - Widevine L1, Playready & Verimatrix Ultra DRM support
    - HDR10, HLG, TCH Prime, Dolby Vision & HDR10+
    - Dolby Vision VS10 HDR engine
    The new CPU/GPU will boot in 20-25 seconds which is very fast. A new FW is installed including boot within two and a half minutes from USB.

    The new CPU/GPU in fact is fast enough to run some popular games on it. Won't do that myself but it is a possibility.

    The Black GUI/Launcher (updated with FW 6.3.0)
    High-End Zidoo models come with a different GUI/Launcher on the home menu. Being really graphical with nice backgrounds it looks very fancy and may appeal to many.
    With the FW update the functionality has now come on par with the standard GUI:
    - The Weather APP is available as an option in Quick Setup
    - Moving cursor down the quick launch bar was added to configure favourite APP's.
    - Pressing on Menu within the APP's menu also here the App version is now displayed.

    Some nuissances introduced with the same FW update:

    1) I can't get access to the Weather APP other than via Quick Setup or using the cursor mouse on the main page. It is not included in APP's neither.
    2) The Weather Widget shows the current day temperature range but not the far more relevant actual temperature. This is valid for both GUI's. This was changed some FW's ago erroneously.

    I expect these to be solved again with a next FW update.

    PQ with 4K HDR => SDR viewed on a Full HD (1080P) TV
    This used to be thus far the weakest aspect of the Realtek SOC's. Watched a few movies this way and I must say with a nice PQ. Used the VS10 engine as it gave me a better PQ than with standard SOC conversion, which was not that bad either. :)

    Picture Quality and Audio Quality
    In general the PQ is excellent and for sure somewhat better than with RTD1296 models. Not a huge improvement but definitely there.
    According Markswift2003 detailed pattern testing: "It renders colors accurately in both standard and wide colour gamuts, it has excellent chroma alignment and is virtually free from chroma banding, especially in VS10 modes".

    Audio supports the same formats and being output in RAW via HDMI there are no changes in quality for movie playback. The same applies to quality for Music Audio. Functional changes are ongoing progress made with Music Player 6. There is one noticeable exception being 2CH playback of MCH SACD ISO's which now works smooth due to the increase in CPU power.

    Music Player 6 gapless playback is now implemented on all models by default and without On/Off optional setting. You also can aggregated full albums to single FLAC files with CUE sheets. I used to do so myself for Live recording mainly using the excellent Windows XRECODE3 program for that. Use that same program to convert MCH SACD ISO's to individual MCH FLAC's with CUE sheets too.

    Additional Color / HDR settings
    1) Color setting preferences can be chosen now specifically for:
    - 4K 50-60Hz
    - 4K 23-30 Hz
    - Below 4K
    This will appeal at least to a number of customers.

    2) MaxCLL and MaxFALL can be disabled now for better HDR10 compatibility.

    3) EDID for Colour depth compatibility mode can be enabled/disabled for compatibility problems

    4) Dolby Vision VS10 Engine was added to the HDR output options. DV support and VS10 are in fact 2 different items. Both will be enhanced over time for sure.

    I don't own a TV with DV just HDR10 myself and use AUTO for HDR which will output SDR and Menu's in SDR, HDR10(+) in HDR10(+) and some DV profiles converted to HDR10.
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2021
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  2. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Dolby Vision VS10 engine
    VS10 is similar to the many image enhancing features found on TV's which you may like or not like. My experience is that high-end TV's do an excellent job with image processing and mostly I turn such image enhancement features off on my media players and let my TV do those.

    With VS10 active when connected to a DV capable TV all output will be in DV even for menus. When connected to just a HDR10 capable TV this changes to HDR10 output for everything. I must say that looks a lot better than doing so with "Mapping HDR" but still prefer the native output myself using AUTO.

    The informative table below was made by @Sledgehamma:

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    This VS10 engine can adopt to many different conditions and can match source and output capabilities for a mix of HDR variants and flavors of those (SDR, HDR10, DV and even HLG).
    With FW6.0.10 these are mostly if not all enabled with individual options to suit individual preferences. Good functionality but making it very complex for a novice user.
    Go here for a truckload more details:
    http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/review-zidoo-z9x.82545/
    http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?thr...rs-includes-unbrick.82695/page-17#post-147301

    Dolby Vision support
    With FW 6.2.0 a big step was made and BD ISO's and BD folders with DV included (dual layer Profile 7 MEL and FEL) will play directly just like using a disc based UHD BD player. This first Beta release does not work yet in combination with BD Menu and must be installed manually.

    Current DV Profile support includes:
    BD ISO,BDMV P7 MEL & FEL
    MKV,MP4 P4 MEL & FEL
    MKV,MP4 P7 MEL & FEL
    MKV,MP4 P5
    MKV,MP4 P8
    DV support includes streaming Netflix (using Profile 5).

    Profiles may be MEL (Minimum Enhancement Layer) or FEL (Full Enhancement Layer) which may be confusing as it is never indicated on the box or disc. Fortunately an overview is available here:
    https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=276448
    DV implementations by TV's and Projectors unfortunately do vary a lot following a range of standards. Specifically early DV TV implementations were limited with LG variants being notorious. They may or may not support DV 10-bit or 12-bit and may optionally include LLDV (Low Latency Dolby Vision).
    Traditional DV is being processed by the TV (TV led) but LLDV is processed by the player instead (Player led). Obviously this may lead to differences in PQ depending on which component does the best job.

    Don't simply expect when the source has DV and the TV was sold with DV that capabilities will (always) fully match. We may presume all TV's have EDID implemented correctly which is definitely not always the case. I further doubt that is really known what the absolute best way is as the total information block is limited regarding size to 256 bytes.

    The EDID spoofing option (since FW6.2.0)
    EDID handshakes are used to match video output with TV/projector capabilities. With this release first time these can be spoofed to change the actual content.
    This is how spoofing EDID works:
    1- A standard EDID is done capturing that info block. This reveals details of the TV/Projector video capabilities including HDR. EDID capabilities are shown at the right in the menu!
    To capture an EDID:
    - Use the standard "Safe" option within EDID settings: It will nicely ask where to store it.
    - Use Quick Settings/Other/About/Advanced Settings/System/Realtek Developer Options/Save EDID on USB Stick.
    - You can also use the Windows program: "Monitor Asset Manager Version 2.9" to capture and store the EDID response.
    2- The captured EDID can be modified for correction, missing items and potentially to add Player-Led DV for HDR/BT2010 capable TV's. That last point is still under investigation.
    3- The modified/custom EDID is uploaded from a file using "Upload EDID" replacing the interactive dialog method to improve/extend HDR functionality from then onwards.
    4- A few pré-defined EDID's are included for well-known fixes and can be applied directly but more are expected to be shared on the Zidoo forum in the near future.

    Obviously when changing the TV/projector connected the EDID stored should be removed/cleared prior to doing so.
    Interesting feature but for advanced customers as correctly stated with the setup option.

    HDR10(+) and HLG support
    Also HDR10 may vary as MaxCLL and MaxFALL may or may not be supported. In most cases it will be ignored when not supported but also in that case may lead to bad colors. At least the latest HDR10+ is backward compatible. Also a warning about HDR10+ as even recent amplifiers passing HDR10 may not support passing also HDR10+ with fallback to HDR10 as the unexpected result.

    HLG =High Level Gamma as used by some broadcasts is reported to work as should.
    Obviously your TV and AMP must be HLG compatible too to enjoy it.

    About the resulting total HDR jungle:
    Excellent overview of the mess made of HDR by the industry:
    https://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1606977052
    The average customer will be totally lost here.

    The studios producing movies on UHD/HDR discs in't any better:
    HDR10: Available on most but not all discs
    HDR10+: Available on a very few discs only thus far and then mostly in combination with DV
    DV: Available on relative few disc and then always combined with HDR10(+).

    This for the relevance if a standard is supported by anything you plan to buy.

    DIVX licensed => XVID free (also for RTD1296)
    Some may have the wish to play old DIVX (AVI) videos. These are not supported due the licenses involved with those. You can bypass this limitation using this simple program:
    https://www.tweaking4all.com/home-theatre/fourcc-changer/
    Set it to change the DIVX header into a XVID header and all done. Available for MAC, Windows and Linux OS versions. Bulk conversions are supported.

    This is valid also for previous generations players as none support DIVX.
    But it does not make all AVI's play so there must be something else not being supported.

    Image Player (also for RTD1296)
    Hey the Image Player APP finally got some attention and was integrated with working links when called from APP's or using the designated remote control button. Albums/folders can be created with nice thumbnail overviews per album. It was also integrated with the screensaver to call a slideshow for an album of preference.

    Changing slideshow preferences is a bit hidden:
    Display a picture from a collection => Press Menu => Select Slideshow => Press Menu => Select Time Interval (and other options).
    No need for a boot or even stopping the slideshow. On the next picture displayed changes are applied.

    Adding/removing optional access to the Google Play Store
    The GAPP"s APK is not applicable anymore and won't work with Android 9. Instead now a FW with "_G" at the end needs to be installed manually via USB (like FW 6.0.22_G). No need to do so if you don't want/require access.
    You first have to "Google Play Protect" certify your player and next need to activate the Google Play Store:

    1. Open Play Store, then close it - this generates the GSF ID
    2. Goto Zidoo Quick Settings/Other/About and take a note of the GSF ID
    3. In any web browser on any platform, goto www.google.com/android/uncertified, log in and enter GSF ID and hit <Register>
    4. Restart Z9X as a now Google Play Protect certified device
    5. Start Google Play Store again and register/activate your Google account

    You are now ready to use the Google Play Store. No other Google services are installed with this procedure. To keep your registration you need to install the _G version updates always.
    No there are no negative side effects beyond being registeren and installed APP's tracking by Google.

    If you are getting nightmares of Big Brother Google watching you don't (but he will do that anyway). :D
    To remove on second thought one can always just install an update without _G and it will be all gone. You can't downgrade Zidoo FW versions but re-installing the same FW version with or without _G is allowed.

    Android 9 APP compatibility
    It is a pity Android TV9 is not available but regarding APP compatibility this Android 9 behaves just like that it seems. Multiple made for Android TV APP's I tried which were not working on Z9S do run flawless under Android 9 now. For many this will be even more important than getting that nice Android TV GUI/Launcher including voice control. ;)

    Android may include a utility to format storage as Internal Storage or Portable Storage but this implementation does not (did not find it). This may be a reason to get a Z10 Pro instead of Z9X.
     
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  3. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Popular Streaming Video/Audio services
    4K supporting APP's for Netflix and Youtube are bundled but others need to be installed manually. Prime Video works in HD too but is not bundled and needs to be downloaded. All APP's are restricted to stereo at the moment except Netflix. Most others are reported just to work in 720P and a few in SD. Be sure to set DHCP at version 2.2 before trying this as it will be required for HD.
    Also TS files with satellite 4K/HLG recordings were reported to play back correctly with RTD1619DR. :)
    Youtube bundled works for me but can't sign in with it. Added "Smart Youtube TV" myself which lets me sign-in without any problems and works perfectly with just a remote control.

    For an extensive test of popular streaming services from the Spanish review.
    The link brings you to a page for setting the required APP up (in Spanish):

    Streaming Service Vídeo / Audio Link
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Youtube 4K (2160p) / stereo With "Smart Youtube TV"
    Google Play Movies Full HD (1080p) / stereo
    Netflix SD / stereo (HD, UHD, DV and Atmos may vary over time)
    HBO HD (720p) / stereo, needs mouse HBO en Android
    Disney+ HD (720p) / stereo includes Dolby Digital Plus Disney+ en Android
    Amazon Prime Video SD (480p) / stereo, needs mouse Prime Video en Android
    Movistar+ HD (720p) / stereo, needs mouse Movistar+ en Android
    Bein Connect HD (720p) / stereo, needs mouse beIN CONNECT en Android
    DAZN HD (720p) / stereo, needs mouse DAZN en Android
    IPTV Full HD (1080i) / stereo IPTV en Android

    For the Dutch: Also the CanalDigitaal APP and NPO Start finally run on it without problems including playing in HD. :)

    Which SATA HDD (Internal/External) to get for these players and how to format?
    This must be the question asked most for any media player. My cut&paste answer is generic for all brands and models:
    - If you like absolute silence: Any 2.5 drive using an 2.5 => 3.5 adapter will do also for Internal. A SSD can be used too obviously but is regarded an overkill by me as it offers no substantial additional advantages.
    - A bit cheaper is using any low speed version 3.5 HDD. Cheaper/slower models is better in most cases. Player performance will be identical and less energy => less heat => above all less fan/drive noise!
    - The cheapest is buying an External USB drive even for an Internal HDD by extracting the build-in HDD from that one. That is what I usually do myself.

    Formatting with GPT and NTFS using all defaults will do the job. Don't use FAT32 (no big file support) and no exFAT (less robust as not intended for HDD's but for sticks/cards). Make very sure there are no second or hidden partitions on it as Android likes it plain and simple (it does not process these options).
    For Apple and/or Linux PC users a good alternative is EXT4.

    What about lifetime/warranty? Using HDD's with a media player the player will be off most of the time and individual HDD's are stopped when not in actual use by most brands. No need for a NAS having HDD's spinning 7x24h! In fact my media player is also used as my SMB Server with the only disadvantage that safety copies need to be made manually/automated (no RAID but yes true Plug&Play). The cheapest way for backups is sharing your entire collection with a good friend!

    VPN
    Reported by others:
    - Making NordVPN to work as default settings it wouldn't work properly.
    Set VPN protocol to OpenVPN (UDP), CyberSec to enabled, allow local network discovery and it's working perfectly now. Split tunneling also works.

    Screensaver included and configurable (also for RTD1296)
    Finally a screensaver was introduced with Android 9. Using Image Player settings you can change the default screensaver pictures with your own. Screensaver works as intended and also can be coupled with other Screensaver APP's. I tried using Google Clock / Aerial Dream myself as the screensaver app. Yeah you need to go to Android Setup to activate one of those alternative screensaver APPs. :)

    HDMI-CEC

    As mentioned already now configurable via Quick Setup. ;)
    - I am missing Power control On/Off synchronized also for my AMP
    - A lot more valued by me is automatic switching to the Zidoo designated HDMI Port. Most equipment sees this as the most basic HDMI-CEC function but I have never seen it before on any Android implementation. When switching on my Zidoo its output will appear automatically on my TV switching to the corresponding HDMI port. This regardless if it is connected directly or via an intermediate AMP.

    Good news for those with a direct TV connection but less if you are using an AMP. If you have an AMP in between it does nothing for that intermediate AMP which HDMI-CEC is perfectly capable to do too. If you need eARC it is even worse as you need to install a HDMI-CEC blocker to get that working as it interferes even when disabled.

    Clock CR1220 cell omitted :(
    My Z9X was shipped without a backup clock cell in contrary to my Z9S. Zidoo confirmed me this will be the case with all their new models. It is not so much a cost saver but avoids problems with international transportation regulations for batteries they told me. It seems Russia does not like them being mounted for instance.
    The clock circuitry is clearly coupled to the standby power with this SOC design. This reduces the impact to zero provided the unit remains connected to the grid constantly. Also without being connected to the Internet the clock will remain counting and providing the correct time even with standby cycles. If desired the CR1220 3V cell can be retrofitted opening the box as the socket for it remains in place.

    Grid restore default configurable and WOL :)
    After a grid power failure or manual power cycle the player will come back active with previous models. With this generation a parameter will let the customer choose to have it come back in standby or active. A welcome improvement.

    WOL (Wake On LAN) also was verified to work correctly. Using Zidoo Controller I can now switch my Z9X not only off but also power it back on, put it to sleep or even restart it again. No real need for a standard remote if you don't want to use both.
    Click on history then the player should be shown with the associated IP-Address. Clicking that player pop-up a new window should appear with "Clear this device" (all models) and "boot" using WOL for RTD1619 models only.

    ZDMC / KODI (also for RTD1296)

    ZDMC v19.1 was made available for compatibility and proved to work with my setup. Won't being doing further testing for ZDMC or KODI. Others confirmed it to run on RTD1296 and even RTD1295 platforms too. Video is then accelerated and Audio can be passed RAW.

    XBMC (KODI Wrapper) in combination with KODI can be used too, but it requires ROOT for SMB/NFS client access.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hu.xmister.xbmcwrapper&hl=en_GB
    This is a valid ZDMC alternative but not for free (8 Euro).

    ROOT

    There is no ROOT available yet, but is expected to come sooner or later.

    OpenWRT dropped but basic SMB Server added

    OpenWRT is not included anymore and won't come back according Zidoo. Some will miss it dearly for sure. :(

    SMB Sever was added again with a basic SMB Server allowing UID+PWD and Read/Write permissions to be set optionally. It worked directly with my setup and showing a good performance too.
    The default is OFF so you need to configure SMB Server in setup. Next connect to it manually using the IP-address of your player but \\ZD_SAMBA may work too.

    Final conclusion
    There are several smaller HW related improvements which are unique with RTD1619 like WOL and power-on defaults, but not a real reason for replacing previous generation players. Most if not all mere FW related tagged improvements are sifting down to RTD1296 based models too. :)

    HDR features and PQ improvements is one of the very valid reasons to move from Z9S and above all X9S to the new Z9X (or equivalent model upgrades). The second one is support for streaming services. The list of streaming services working is quite impressive already but we still hope for more in Full HD, 4K/HDR combined with MCH sound. :cool:
    Unfortunately Zidoo can't guarantee the level of features supported of streaming services and even working at all.
    That is not due to APP support/compatibility but about policies followed by the various providers. :eek:

    A third reason related to the previous is APP compatibility which is far better with this Android 9 implementation. All typical Android TV APP's I tried just ran as they should which I was definitely not used to. :)

    Price/performance is excellent for the new models taking into account the VS10 engine and new SOC. Personally would not go for a bargain offer buying older models anymore. ;)
    I do expect to see more FW functional differentiation between Entry Level, High End and HiFi models over time.
     
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  4. sadrettin

    sadrettin New Member

    thanks

    good job
     
  5. mattmarsden

    mattmarsden Active Member

    Brilliant news
     
  6. ragico

    ragico Member

    What about Dolby True HD Atmos? Is it supported in passtrough?
     
  7. gymnos

    gymnos Member

    Very good job, thanks for the info.
     
  8. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Everything that worked on previous models works on the new onces too, unless stated in the overview.
    Yes passthrough works for all audio formats including Atmos and DTS-X.

    Added some more info about Dolby Vision Profiles: Which do work (experimental) now, what is being worked on and which won't come for sure.
    All experiences of others as I don't have a TV with DV at all (just HDR10 + HLG).
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2020
  9. rozel

    rozel Active Member

    Good one @Nice Monkey , much appreciated - what took you so long? - only joking !!!!!!!!!!!!! :):):) I will pull the trigger now for a Z1000 Pro once the pre-order reopens, hopefully tomorrow (or maybe later today ;) )
     
  10. mattmarsden

    mattmarsden Active Member

    Strangely ZDMC 17.6 does run but when you launch a file it calls the Zidoo player but just sits there (doesn't crash).

    Edit - actually it does work with NFS, not sure about SMB.
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2020
  11. mattmarsden

    mattmarsden Active Member

    Well actually I've got ZDMC 17.6 working perfectly with NFS and using plexkodiconnect so I'm very happy. It probably works fine with SMB as well but I havn't tried that.
     
  12. Thanos

    Thanos Member

    Very nice and clear summary thanks!
     
  13. DELUCAS

    DELUCAS Well-Known Member

    Keep up the good work Nice Monkey :) :)
     
  14. rozel

    rozel Active Member

    Sometimes I believe there's too much talk about Dolby Vision, which I'm understanding only suits OLED sets because apart from potential burn-in due to their pixels' organice nature they suffer from poor brightness (offset of course with superb contrast). QLED's particularly those from Samsung don't suffer from these issues and their latest 2019 & 2020 sets are to be seen to be believed.

    So what I'd like to know is exactly how these media players handle HDR10+ (HDR10Plus). @Nice Monkey has already advised that if the source contains HDR10+ and the TV supports it, setting to Auto is the way to go. Does this mean the VS10 engine doesn't offer anything in this regard then? When would it be used? I confess I'm a newbie to all the vagaries of High Dynamic Range and exactly how I will extrapalate the best possible HDR10+ viewing.
     
  15. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Wait for new automatic features to come here with VS10. It now converts some DV profiles to HDR10. The chip as such supports a lot which is not all featured yet by the Zidoo FW. Conversions done by the chip are excellent (say those who have equipment + patterns to test this with).
     
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  16. Rob W

    Rob W Member

    If i install the G version of firmware from USB will the auto update on the box still work? Will it also then keep updating with the G version or will I need to wait for future USB versions and do it manually?
     
  17. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Valid questions: We need to wait and see for the first real OTA update. Thus far only USB updates were provided.

    I hope updating with _G is a one time action kept with regular updates installed next. Don't want to follow that whole procedure with every update. :eek:
     
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  18. andys

    andys Member

    the new ones don't have openwrt?
     
  19. Sledgehamma

    Sledgehamma Active Member

    Are you sure that that some DV profiles are converted to HDR10+ plus? I dint think that is the case.
     
    Last edited: Aug 23, 2020
  20. Sledgehamma

    Sledgehamma Active Member

    Correct, no openwrt present.
     

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