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Zidoo X9S and HDR10+

Discussion in 'ZIDOO X9S' started by havok42, Mar 25, 2019.

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  1. havok42

    havok42 New Member

    HDR10+ is on the way, probably the first BD containing HDR10+ will be available next months. Does anyone knows if Zidoo X9S support HDR10+ (with an HDMI 2.1 cable, of course) ?
     
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  2. looun

    looun Member

    1) HDR10+ not need HDMI 2.1 cable or HDMI 2.1 device
    2) there are not any player compatible with dynamic metadata from local file, except UHD player like Oppo 203/205
     
  3. havok42

    havok42 New Member

    1)What do you mean ? Is HDMI 2.0 dynamic metadata compatible ?
    2) Well, when HDR10+ will be available on the market some compatible players will be available as well, of course..
     
  4. looun

    looun Member

    1) yes , HDR10+ e dolby vision was release on HDMI 2.0
    2) nope, dolby vision use second track on second layer like HDR10+ ,Only UHD player like Oppo 203/205 can read second layer from file .
     
  5. havok42

    havok42 New Member

    2)Yes, I understand. But if HDR10+ will be implemented massively on the market, and it will replace normal HDR (static) and perhaps Dolby Vision, for sure many others UHD players like Oppo 203/205 will be released. It's just a marketing issue. Otherwise it doesn't make sense the HDR10+ implementation. HDR technology is open source, Dolby Vision isn't.
     
  6. looun

    looun Member

    NOPE, HDR10+ is royalty-free NOT open source, is big difference!
    HDR10+ is supported only by 3 company and only last panasonic players now and in the future .Samsung have closed player's division.
    Forget about HDR10+.

    The future of HDR is "tone mapping" o better dynamic tone mapping, dinamic meta data have big limitaion with attual TV.

    PS: oppo support only Dolby Vision from disc and file.


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  7. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Nice picture looun!
    To put it into perspective: Yes DV and HDR10+ are technically available on HDMI 2.0 but to run in combination with UHD one needs more bandwidth hence HDMI 2.1 becomes essential.

    OK some may prefer HDR10+/DV in combination with 1080P which makes sense on smaller screens (around 55 inch is still small for UHD) but on really big screens (75 inch+/projection) UHD will win hands on.

    HLG is absolutely relevant for streaming services including satellite.
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2019
  8. looun

    looun Member

    DV and HDR10+ are "dinamic meta data " but need TV with "1000 nits" ,that's now is impossible .
    Lot of TV have max only 150-200 nits , so is much better HDR10 with tone mapping .

    The best quality now and future is dynamic tone mapping like madvr with HTPC ( ~1000$/€ ), any sequence of movie are calibrate for max performance for YOUR TV (in your house) .
     
  9. gadgetman

    gadgetman Member

    What are you talking about
    LCD/LED all do over 200nits you need to do more reading up.
    Dynamic tone mapping for dolby is 10000 nits but the meta data reads the disc max light ouput usually 1,000/or a few like blade runner US disc only which is 10000. The idea of tone mapping is to map to the capability of the TV no matter how many nits which all 4tv's lcd usually do between 800-1700 or oled lower topping out at about 650 which will be higher on this year Panasonic oled.
     
  10. Chirita Laurentiu

    Chirita Laurentiu New Member

    Oppo supports HDR10+ on the latest FW/not beta.
     
  11. SaskMedia

    SaskMedia Member

    All of this talk is irrelevant as there are zero rips out there of movies that support either Dolby vision or HDR10+. Once those rips come out then you’ll see player support - most notably - in new chipsets and boxes.

    If any format is going to win out it’ll be Dolby Vision as it’s the dominant format supported via streaming services most notably Netflix and ITunes. These services will also be the easiest to rip from.
     
  12. gadgetman

    gadgetman Member


    Really Dolby Vision 4k UHD been available awhile now and HDR10+.
    Also will not post here but i have found a media player running the oppo 203 firmware which will play back Dolby Vision and HDR10+ files perfect no disc spinner obviously included.
     
  13. SaskMedia

    SaskMedia Member

    An FYI but there is a HDRplus rip of alien 40th anniversary out. It’s an mkv.
     
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  14. havok42

    havok42 New Member

    Yes, I know, but what kind of device is required to watch that properly ? Zidoo X9S supports HDR only, not HDR10+.
     
  15. SaskMedia

    SaskMedia Member

    No streaming device currently available does it. It would have to be played using the TVs built in media player... or possibly a bluray player.

    From what I’ve read to support HDR10+ on your device or movie you have to join the HDR alliance. Part of joining the alliance is the requirement to share code and other tech with other members in the alliance hence why companies like Apple and LG have not joined.
     
  16. havok42

    havok42 New Member

    Well, I guess all players that support Dolby Vision (like Oppo) will support HDR10+ as well. Otherwise no reason to launch HDR10+ in the market...
     

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