Z9X Pro / v1.0.95 / "pumping"/flickering on certain files

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619BPD)' started by devilsown, Oct 26, 2024.

  1. devilsown

    devilsown New Member

    Hello,
    i've an issue with my Z9X Pro on some files. The picture is constantly pumping / flickering and the movies are unwatchable like this in dolby vision. This doesn't happen with many files, but it's reproducable and i've cross-checked with other devices (Shield and Homatics Box R 4k Plus) and they don't have that problem with the same files. Tried DV player led and TV led, no difference. I can provide two 30 seconds Samples, maybe this will help to determine the issue and hopefully fix it but i can't post them here because i get the following error:

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    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2024
  2. Visconti12

    Visconti12 Active Member

    The Forum's system doesn't accept such file, then uploaded it to any server like Mega and post here the link.
     
  3. devilsown

    devilsown New Member

    That's exactly what i did (mega) - still it wouldn't let me post the topic with the message above, even after shortening them through tiny.url
     
  4. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    You need a certain number of posts before you can post links.
     
  5. devilsown

    devilsown New Member

    Can you unlock it so i can post them in this topic or can i send them to you and you post them? otherwise this topic doesn't make much sense. thanks

    Edit: i get the same message when i try to send them via PM
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2024
  6. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    If you can PM them to me I'll add them to your post above.

    To save you time, is one of them Saving Private Ryan by any chance?
     
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  7. devilsown

    devilsown New Member

    Thanks, no - two other movies. (Land of Bad and The Soul Eater, both 2024 Releases)
     
  8. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Oh ok - I think it'll probably be the same problem - I'll know when I see the files.
     
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  9. devilsown

    devilsown New Member

    It didn't work, same error message, even when i tried so send you the links as pictures. Maybe you can text me an E-Mail or something where this algorithm doesn't interfere.
     
  10. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Right, I got the samples and it's the same mastering problem as Saving Private Ryan.

    To be honest I couldn't see a a problem with Sample 2 but it was very obvious with Sample 1.

    This is to do with unwanted luminance variations in the enhancement layer that are compensated for by metadata in the RPU. So far I've only ever seen this issue with Saving Private Ryan and one more title whose name escapes me.

    But because the enhancement layer isn't used in these boxes, the compensation in the RPU causes the video levels to fluctuate (because there isn't anything to compensate for).

    This is because in the Realtek boxes the RPU is treated as Profile 7 so the metadata blocks associated with the enhancement layer are still used which normally isn't really an issue.

    The AMLogic boxes remove this metadata so the RPU is treated like Profile 8 which has no enhancement layer so videos such as these play fine.

    The only solution with such videos on the Realtek boxes is to watch in HDR10 or to remove Dolby Vision from the file with something like dovitool.
     
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  11. devilsown

    devilsown New Member

    Ok, thanks for the clarification - kinda sucks but fortunately it's rare...
     
  12. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Yeah, I agree. Sucks.

    But I'm really curious about Land of Bad - I have that movie in DV and have no issue with it and I couldn't see a problem with the sample you sent.
     
  13. devilsown

    devilsown New Member

    For me it looks just as bad as the other one, here's a video on my LG 77G3 OLED. Even on the YT Video i think you can see what i mean...

     

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