Recommended SSD Drives

Discussion in 'Eversolo DMP-A6' started by groglein, May 23, 2023.

  1. Inti

    Inti Active Member

    I do the same thing and sometimes I find new favorites songs but I’m selective
     
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  2. Alan Rutlidge

    Alan Rutlidge Well-Known Member

    Wow, I never imagined this group as the music police. :( Shades of Klaus from the WEF. "You will own nothing and you will be happy..." :eek:

    Perspective gents. How much music I have purchased over the decades and how I choose to store it is my business. I've been buying digital music since the CD became readily available in 1983 and vinyl and analogue tapes long before that.

    Before the availability of CD-ROM drives in PCs, I, like just about all my contemporaries played our CDs on CD players, MiniDisc and other formats like DAT and DCC on their respective decks. Then DVD-Audio and SACD came along and we played them on their players. From 1983 to today in 2024 (yes that's a lot of years) one can collect one hell of a lot of physical media. Yep, I have literally bookshelves and boxes full of them of discs and digital tapes. I consider myself a pretty organised person but believe me it becomes tedious trying to find a particular album let alone locating a specific piece of music to pay, so the obvious solution is rip those discs to a suitable file format and store them. Before I purchased the eversole DMP-A6 I stored all those files on my NAS and played them from a PC using software like Foobar2000 through an external DAC. Whilst this is all good and dandy booting up a PC, running a program, making sure the NAS is actually switched on and running is IMHO cumbersome compared to playing my music from my DMP-A6 which IMHO is a lot more convenient, feature packed and accessible in terms of finding the particular album, track, artist or genre I want to listen to. Plus it's a streamer that gives me access to stuff I don't have in my personal music library from the likes of Amazon Music, Radio Paradise, internet radio stations et al.

    Do I still play my CDs and digital tapes? Hell, yes. Not everything has been ripped and stored on the 4TB SSD inside the DMP-A6. About 4,500+ albums ripped so far and counting. DVD-Audio discs do contain video image content and sometimes I like to view that content too. Something the DMP-A6 doesn't support. One also needs to appreciate that Hi-Res multi-channel LPCM files can be pretty big so they do take up a lot of storage space on a SSD or HDD. Likewise DSD and SACD ISO files. So in my case, 4TB isn't probably going to be enough once I finish ripping the rest of my CDs and SACDs and converting the MiniDisc, DAT and DCC albums to LPCM for storage.

    So to address the question from @Inti Yes, I have at some time played all the music I own. Obviously since owning the DMP-A6 for less than a year I haven't had time to re-listen to every track on the DMP-A6 but if it (or I) lasts the distance I probably will. :D Perhaps when I'm bored out of my tiny I will digitise all my vinyl LPs, reel to reel tapes, cassettes and 8-track cartridges. :p
     
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  3. rccarguy

    rccarguy New Member

    It's my music backup. What's the point of me ripping and encoding music if I only do 20%? Plus you may want a copy of lossless vorbis for portable use.

    Not having internal drive is missing a important feature, it's CD ripper /encoder, so the extra expense is worth it...but for sake of just 4TB?

    Ideally the analogue section should be removed, space inside for 3.5" bay cooled, and on silicon pads. Make it a server/ripping/

    Plus 24 bit 192khz music is far bigger is size than 44khz 16 bit that 4TB will be eaten up pretty fast, if one HD album is about 1 GB each or so
     
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  4. Inti

    Inti Active Member

    I really hope that I didn’t offend you it wasn’t my intent
     
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  5. Alan Rutlidge

    Alan Rutlidge Well-Known Member

    No offence taken from your comment or your question. :)
     
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  6. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Active Member

    What do you mean by "data integrity"? I've been using external USB hard drives for years connected to Oppo players USB inputs with no issues at all. I have the DMP-A6 connected to the USB-DAC input of my Marantz SA-KI Ruby with no issues as well.
     
  7. rccarguy

    rccarguy New Member

    I've had issues with some USB enclosures losing connection, at total random points. I'd rather not risk USB for mission critical data. Some bad experiences with Prolific USB chipsets in USB boxes.
     
  8. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Active Member

    I have four Western Digital external hard drives and have never had any of them lose connection with the connected component. Not sure what you mean by "mission critical data". Maybe the issue is with the USB "boxes" you're using and not the USB connection itself.
     
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  9. Alice823bee

    Alice823bee New Member

    I use a 2 TB Samsung T7 Shield external SSD connected to my Eversolo A6.
    Taking this SSD to my Widows PC upstairs every now and then to rip some CDs using Foobar, works fine.
    One question is if there is a noticeable sound difference, comparing this to an internal SSD which I am consideringto buy.
    (SSD —-> Eversolo A6 /LHY power —->Denafrips DDC —-> Denafrips Pontus II 12Th —-> Luxman C-700U —-> M-700U etc)

    Major quest was to find a good USB-C to USB-A cable to connect the Samsung to the Eversolo to listen to music.
    Any cable that I bought is a USB one direction A to C charging cable, that does NOT work trying to listen to the files on the Samsung.
    2 questions: 1. sound quality difference internal vs external SSD and 2. which USB-C to USB-A cable ?
    Will be very happy to read meaningful responses, for which I thank in advance.
     
  10. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Active Member

    I have a Crucial 4TB internal SSD installed in my DMP-A6. I also have had a Western Digital 5TB EasyStore hard drive connected to the DMP-A6. I can not tell any difference in sound quality between the SSD and the connected hard drive. I've bought USB cables from Monoprice and they get the job done just fine. Some "audiophiles" might not consider cables from Monoprice because they are so inexpensive.

    https://www.monoprice.com/product?p...uiWbVSbGiB1AfZeq37MqGlZMPYG9Xm5yw8XXJjA7Ned8h

    I use this Monoprice USB A to USB B cable from my DMP-A6 to a Marantz SA-KI Ruby CD/SACD player (used as a DAC).

    https://www.amazon.com/Monolith-USB...ocphy=9189204&hvtargid=pla-2281435177138&th=1
     
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  11. Alan Rutlidge

    Alan Rutlidge Well-Known Member

    Like you Bill I have installed a Crucial 4TB SSD inside my DMP-A6 and it works just fine. I occasionally hook up a Seagate 14TB external USB 3.5" HDD and I too could not hear any difference in the SQ of the same tracks played through my DMP-A6 on my system which is mid to high end. I know a lot of debate takes place in various audio groups and forums regarding cables used to carry digital signals and equally heated debates on brand name SSDs vs the lesser known or lower priced units. In double blind ABX testing most audiophiles can't reliably determine one from the other, yet on audio forums and groups they will cheerfully tell you about the virtues of their very expensive esoteric cables and devices whilst belittling less expensive ones. o_O Quite often never have listened to the less expensive cables in their own system. There's a lot to be said for the placebo effect. Now I'm not advocating that anyone should purchase cheap cables or equipment as a matter of course. Yes, there's no shortage of poorly made garbage on the market that probably will fail or simply fall apart, but you don't need to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars, GBP or Euros to get good quality well-constructed cables that will last for decades and provide endless listening pleasure.

    Sadly many audiophiles are IMHO sucked into advertising hype (yes, been there - got the leather meddle :oops:) and dazzled by the look of the cable or it's fancy packaging. I read on a well-known audio forum (which should remain nameless) a contributor discussing audiophile fuses from yet another one of those manufacturers that make outrageous claims and sell their wares at extremely high prices where he was upgrading from the "black" to the "orange" and even though he had not yet taken delivery let alone installed said fuse was already praising its virtues. o_O:rolleyes: I replied to his comment asking how he could possibly know the replacement "orange" would be better than the "black" if he hadn't already tried it and heard it in his system. Well that question got me an infraction strike and suspension from posting for a week. Hmmm... there exists the clans of the true believers who are fully indoctrinated into the cult of more expensive automatically means superior performance and / or reliability. IME that isn't always the case. I think the case of the Tom Evans Groovemaster SR MkIII phono pre-amp costing GBP 25,000 is a good example of marketing hype over materials and build quality. Here's the link to a re-posted video on Mark's original repair video that was taken down by Tom Evans Audio claiming a (bogus) copyright infringement - https://youtu.be/pHK5Lii0394?si=6Pt09fb0KmNSdQGl This product looks like it was made as a prototype. Sure, a nice glossy black case but inside electronics looks like it was slapped together by an amateur. Here's a link to the product in question on the Tom Evans website. https://audiodesign.co.uk/styled-23/styled-27/index.html Read the hype about "alien technology" and how only 10 units will be made every year. :p Oh, and the claim of balanced XLR outputs which don't actually exist on the final sale product. :eek: (see paragraph 2 of the advertising then compare the actual product shown in Mark's repair video.)

    As for SSDs, I could have spent considerably more buying a Samsung EVO but I decided that the 3rd Gen 4TB Crucial SSD was more than up to the challenge for use in the DMP-A6. If you compare the specifications there's absolutely no advantage in a super-fast read speed if used in a device like the DMP-A6 in which a 1st Gen SSD would most likely outperform the streamer albeit I haven't tried one personally.
     
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  12. MarkVerheijen

    MarkVerheijen New Member

     
  13. Desmodromic

    Desmodromic Active Member

    I've used Kingston PCIe 4.0 drives in both DMP A6 and DMP A10. The ones I use are a 2Tb NV2, and a 4Tb NV3. Both types worked equally well in both DMPs.

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    At the moment I have the 2Tb and the 4Tb installed in my A10 (it has two drive bays), and I can use either, and can copy between them when required. I've had the 2Tb NV2 drive for c. 18 months, and the 4Tb one for about 6 weeks. Eventually I plan on refitting the 2Tb drive back into my A6.
     
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  14. wag12

    wag12 New Member

    So I got my DMP-A8 today: I installed my new SSD into the bottom of the A-8. I formatted the drive as NTFS and then removed it from the A-8 and put it in to an external NVMe case and connected it to my computer. My plan was to copy my folder with my flac files to it and then remove it from my computer and reinstall it in my A8. That plan didn't work as my computer which is running Windows 11 could not see the drive. So I put it back in to the A8 and then I connected an external USB drive to the top USB port on the back of the A8 and I used the procedure in this YouTube video to transfer the folder containing all of my flac files from the external USB drive to the SSD in the bottom of the A8. It seems to be working but it is going to take awhile to transfer the 168GB file.

     
  15. Jamesw72

    Jamesw72 Member

    Hi all,

    I have purchased a Fanxiang M.2 SSD and installed it in my A6 Master and it’s not recognised in player.. any idea?
     
  16. Alan Rutlidge

    Alan Rutlidge Well-Known Member

    Can you please provide a link to the SSD product you purchased. This might help identify the issue.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2025
  17. THXjay

    THXjay Active Member

    Just wondered if the 4tb limit is fixed by the machine itself or is it possible to increase it in an update. I currently have my music collection on an 8tb drive and would prefer it internally as it's quieter and my external doesn't spin down when I turn off my A6.
     
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  18. Jamesw72

    Jamesw72 Member

    Hi, I’ve just tried a 500gb Crucial P3 M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe stick and it’s the same.,
     
  19. Jamesw72

    Jamesw72 Member

    Hang on, found the issue .. I was trying to do this via the app :) It was available on the A6 screen .. all formatted and ready to go. Strange it wasn’t available in the app though
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2025
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  20. Alan Rutlidge

    Alan Rutlidge Well-Known Member

    Good to read you have had success. :)

    The reason I asked about the drive was in the past some people have accidentally purchased and tried to install the SATA versions which will plug into the slot but the system architecture of the DMP-A6 of course can't recognise it.
    I currently have a Crucial P3 M.2 Gen 3 NVMe 4TB drive installed which is formatted to NTFS and it has been working fine for over a year now. :)
     

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