Have Zidoo's devs abandoned this forum?

Discussion in 'Eversolo DMP-A6' started by Dinocasino, Apr 1, 2024.

  1. rory

    rory New Member

    There is still a few people on this forum and facebook groups that report it, So it isn't my imagination, I can play same source through my nvidia shield and the harshness goes away, so this rules out speakers, room and so forth, just looking for a coax cable to use the dac in my arcam A15 so see if this helps
     
  2. The Moog

    The Moog Member

    The tracks you mention sound fine to me.

    How are your Shield and A6 connected as the Shield doesn't have an analogue output, so I don't understand how you have compared them?
     
  3. rory

    rory New Member

    It passes through my Denon x3700h to my Arcam A15 via pre out in pure direct mode.
     
  4. The Moog

    The Moog Member

    Which does via what connection?

    I guess what I am asking is where does the digital to analogue conversion happen in each case and what is doing the volume control, so which DACs are you comparing?

    What @Nutul said is true; the differences between good DACs is very small, and the A6's DAC is both excellent and well implemented, so to all intents and purposes pretty much perfect.

    Your Arcam has an older ESS DAC and probably not as well implemented as the A6, and your Denon will have the worst measuring DAC of them all. You might still prefer it's sound though, have you tried running the A6 digital out into the Denon as that should sound identical to your Shield if you are using them both as digital transports?
     
  5. rory

    rory New Member

    Won't lie, all i know is the Denon will be be in pass through mode, Will ask on an Arcam group if the analogue inputs use the Arcam DAC or they in pass through too
     
  6. SausageDog

    SausageDog Member

    It's not only few people here or your imagination, basically all the online reviews (especially on YouTube) I have come across, even those that are considered to be paid reviews (some always consider they are all paid and therefore fully positive reviews), if they have something to warn you about is related to a possibly bright and upfront sound presentation. It could be related to system matching (especially with already bright loudspeakers) and/or personal taste but this is not an isolated opinion.
     
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  7. Berico

    Berico Member

    Lugs is a complicated album that is deliberately harsh and disturbing, there are songs that have highlights in contrast to the vocals, others are total goosebumps, others are flat with high distortion, still others like the girl with one eye it must disturb you a minimum is the artist's will, it's a very beautiful album but in hi-fi it's like this, imagine a whole roll off, what remains of the message?It's a debut album, raw and cutting, then everyone has their own sensitivity but this is an album that deliberately places accents to make you pay attention, it's a group that I love very much. I won't talk about Oesis because I could risk legal companies, but I can say that none of their albums can be a benchmark for hi-fi chains but they are fine in cars.
     
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  8. Berico

    Berico Member

    it is a linear dac, in a chain a dac can influence perhaps 5% on the total sound, a dac cannot influence that much, the sound is brought home with the speakers/room, no dac, not broken, will improve or worsen an implant until it becomes tiring.
    Rather, we need to dose ourselves, we need to take a break, yes, too many hours of music a day are tiring.
     
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  9. rory

    rory New Member

    Saw Florence live this time last year and very refined compared to lungs album. And amazing.

    Lol. You are prob correct with oasis about it more tailored to a car stereo than mid to high end hi fi.

    Sort of pointing the finger to my monitor audio silver 100's 7 gens. But wouldn't know what to change then for and they are also matched with the centre and rears
     
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  10. The Moog

    The Moog Member

    Have you tried using the room correction on your Denon? This will have much more of an effect on taming speaker/room interactions than any DAC settings.
     
  11. rory

    rory New Member

    Hi Moog, I should have mentioned that anything music related like the eversolo and my turntable are direct through the Arcam A15, The rest of the speakers go direct into the Denon with the fronts going out via pre out to the arcam
     
  12. supermood

    supermood Active Member

    I think the video is 100% correct about internal own music management. Its even worse than the z9x pro home theater video management and that means something. I bought an m2 ssd and started to move but I stopped it after many shots and even more posts here. honestly I did not expect this in 2023 device with that price tag specifically designed for listening music

    .... and the settings and screen share and inconsistency on 100 things.. some months ago I wrote: make up your mind, get an review from an very good ux/ui pro, then implement it (then test it before distribution... other topic.. ;)

    but I kept the device for tidal, sounds good for me, tidal menu is OK now. no interruptions anymore. luckily I don't have to change settings for that anymore.. I'm not an experienced user with other separate dacs

    but the device could and should be much more. 200 gig own music all at least flac CD quali I wanted to bring to life again. that's currently not possible. any of my various current connections from nas to speaker is much better in the moment
     
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  13. blackie

    blackie New Member

    I'm sure most of you are satisfied with the onboard DAC performance and don't want to alter the A6 sound signature.
    But I personally can hear/feel a bit tiring sound from my rig (never fell asleep while playing music from A6).
    Have recently tested 3 streamer+dac combos at home and my A6 was clearly sounding more nervous/tiring compared to others.

    I like my A6 and it's sound quality in general. It's lovely little gem and I hope its DSP feature can be useful to mitigate this.
    Would appreciate if zidoo could provide some help (for some of us sensitive to this problem).
    Maybe adding some preinstalled EQ presets or a feature for import/export EQ settings via files so some experts could share their EQ settings with rest of us.
     
  14. Berico

    Berico Member


    is goood idea
     
  15. rory

    rory New Member

    They seem to have abandoned creating updates, and they also never respond to any threads on here either. Terrible way to keep customers informed/ updated with news and developments
     
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  16. Bonzo

    Bonzo Active Member

    Finally a review that tells the absolute truth. Many here have been talking about it for nearly a year now and it's still not fixed. Unreal.
     
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  17. Alan Rutlidge

    Alan Rutlidge Active Member

    New beta version if someone wants to try it -
    music.eversolo.com/dmp/ota/DMP_A6/v1.2.66/DMP-A6_R_v1.2.66_202404232005_ota-package.zip
     
  18. THXjay

    THXjay Member

    One of the reasons I went for the A6 was that it seemed to have lots of support. It hasn't had an update since I bought it, though granted I haven't had it that long so I'm hoping for one very soon.

    To be honest, it's the app that I would like to see the most work on. Sometimes it's confusing as to whether the feature is an app or unit feature.
    I need them to sort out album views, we really need the ability to search albums from the genre page and that's just the beginning......see my thread about features (with pictures) that I would like to see :)

    http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/tablet-app-design-and-function-feature-requests.97894/
     
  19. Tore Carstensen

    Tore Carstensen New Member

    The App is falling out/stops often on both IPhone IOS update 17.4.1 and IPad.
    Waiting for an App update?
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  20. Uwe

    Uwe Member

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