Color grading problems in HDR with firmware 1.4.12 and 1.4.16

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1295)' started by giangi76, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    Hi, I'm quite an advanced video user, and was very happy with the image quality of my X8 till firmware 1.4.6
    (I use the default player, because I consider it the best in terms of video quality and tone mapping HDR).

    Then I tried both firmwares 1.4.12 and the new 1.4.16 and with 4k HDR content I notice some very bad color grading in the high lights, with solarisation and horizontal bandings (I already tried all possibile combination of deep color and color space). It's a pitty, because I think the 2 last firmwares are slightly better in terms of detail.
    Because of these issues, I had to downgrade to 1.4.6 firmware, but I like the new features of the 1.4.16 firmware (Ultra HD Blu-ray menu navigation, HDR switch and audio sampling pass-through).

    Any chance you could restore the 1.4.6 firmware HDR video quality in the next firmware upgrade?

    As the firmwares are in common also with X9S and X10, I suppose the issue affects also these models.
     
  2. looun

    looun Member

  3. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    I think you're right! I'm afraid it is a mix of color depth (10 bit) and color compression (420 / 422 /444) bug
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2017
  4. looun

    looun Member

    after downgrade to 1.4.6, color depth 10 bit work?
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2017
  5. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    Yes, it worked for me! You need to set deep color to 10 bit and leave color space to Auto
     
  6. Robynet73

    Robynet73 New Member

    In auto only works 444
     
  7. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    If your TV or projector (and audio processor HDMI pass-through) supports 444, that's absolutely not a problem (even better!)
     
  8. Davicom

    Davicom Member

    I really hope for zidoo intervent like a corrective patch. A great job was made with bdmv menu, but bluray disks are pratically impossible to watch with banding. I thought to downgrade, but i decide to wait, i hardly thing that zidoo stay with this firmware problems
     
  9. Stfn

    Stfn New Member

    How did you downgrade? What process did you follow?
     
  10. Davicom

    Davicom Member

    You need to flash down at 1.4.4 and then you can do Local update (Ota) to 1.4.6, but i don't trip you to make. Are you sure that isn't movie scene are made with those effects? For example: i was sure that batmanvssuperman was not correctly visualized. But if you search on youtube the quality is the same. So i update to 1.4.16 back
     
  11. Stfn

    Stfn New Member

    Where do you get the 1.4.4 image file from? The only instruction I found on flashing Zidoo X8 is this:
    http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/how-to-flash-zidoo-x8-unit.3328/
    But it only has a link for the 1.2.6 image file. I also found 1.4.12 on other sites, which I'm not sure are legit. But where to find 1.4.4? Or maybe others?
     
  12. HaoSs

    HaoSs Well-Known Member

    flash 1.2.6 and OTA to 1.4.4
     
  13. Stfn

    Stfn New Member

    OK, but it's still not clear for me - is it one step "jump" from 1.2.6 directly to 1.4.4? Or do I have to go through 1.2,7, 1.2.11, 1.2.12 and 1.3.0beta as they are listed on the official X8 download page here:

    upload_2017-11-27_8-39-21.png
     
  14. PacoRabanne

    PacoRabanne Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Directly, AFAIK
     
  15. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    I can assure you that the horizontal banding and solarization are NOT movie scene effects (nobody would be so stupid to do that in a movie). I also use a stand-alone Ultra HD Blu-ray player and never have those issues! And proof is, that using FW 1.4.6 everything looks fine!
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2017
  16. Davicom

    Davicom Member

    Believe me (just my experience!!) Reading on forum about color grading problems of new firmware while i was watching the movie I said it in previous post, I did influence; so i did downgrade to 1.4.6 and the vision was the same (1hour14min of movie/dark scene with brightness lights). So a my friend told me "why we don't look for this scene on youtube?" Result: the scene it's made just like so...I Repeate, that is just my experience with only movie i tought had some visualization provlem.
     
  17. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    I'll check Batman vs Superman Ultra HD Blu-ray later and let you know...
     
  18. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    I watched the scene twice from min 1h13min to 1h17min and can't see any problem at all. Everything looks good (except for alot of grain which is in most of the movie...but that's actually the movie style)
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2017
  19. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    I tried the latest FW 1.4.20 on X8 and I'm still having the same issue....
     
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  20. Robynet73

    Robynet73 New Member

    also I have the same problem of banding, I tried the same movies with himedia player q10pro is no problem, I hope that solve soon
     

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