Beta version v1.0.60 for Z9X Pro release

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619BPD)' started by Markswift2003, Nov 3, 2023.

  1. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    added features like interal drive bay and better hi ress audio handling etc and all the extra dollers to buy em :p
     
  2. Jatapong

    Jatapong New Member

    Because the resolution for Loki from DSNP = 3840x2160. You could try 'Gen V' from AMZN 3840x1600 cropped HDR and you will see black bar aren't black
     
  3. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    It's not an issue with DV movies - I'm not sure why people have that impression. It's an issue with cropped movies, so if your movies aren't cropped, you won't see the issue

    It's not a huge difference - the only way I can see the problem is with a cropped black level pattern where I know the background is black @ 64.

    If you raise black level on the image, you can really see it! (apologies for the reflections)

    upload_2023-11-4_9-53-31.png

    The level of the background layer is about 80.
     
  4. DennisTheMenace

    DennisTheMenace Active Member

    ok, now it happened again after stopping a movie that my settings changed by themselves :(
    From 4k60Hz to 180p 30Hz. And HDR from Auto to SDR. This happened after a movie stopped using Dolby Vision Vs10. Why is Vs10 even used when it is set to Auto? My TV only supports HDR or HDR10+.
    Shouldn't the native Hdr10 fallback play on a Samsung TV when playing an MKV with Dolby Vision?
    In any case, I then set the resolution back to 4k60hz and HDR to Auto. However, the same problems occurred again as with the previous firmware. The picture freezes and the sound continues.
    I will now unplug the player and find out when exactly this error occurs. I just hope it doesn't happen as often as it did with v1.0.52, otherwise I'll have to reconnect my z9x.
     
  5. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    HDR10/HDR10+ fallback should have been fixed in this release, but according to my tests it hasn't.

    However there's someone reporting that it has so I'm not sure what's going on:

    http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/z9x-pro-and-hdr10.96883/#post-204116

    (it was in the wrong forum so you probably didn't see it - I've moved it here)
     
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  6. supermood

    supermood Active Member

    OK I thought cropped means I have a black bar on top and bottom because the movie was not full screen 16:9 and I'm of course always watching original aspect no changes on z9 or tv...

    so sorry, what does crop mean? I want to check if it's black or grey on my end here.

    thanks!
     
  7. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    It means for example a 3840x2160 video that's a letter boxed 2.40:1 presentation being cropped down to 3840x1600 to get rid of the black bars from the encoded video to save storage space.
     
  8. supermood

    supermood Active Member

    thanks. if I'm getting rid of it how can they be grey? but anyway. not relevant for me I guess .... I never change something in the aspect ration or zoom in..

    im besides my internal wishlist (currently 7 bullets) positively surprised by the device!
     
  9. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    It's because for cropped video the background is a layer that's generated by the Zidoo with the cropped video on top.

    upload_2023-11-4_10-54-15.png upload_2023-11-4_10-54-22.png
     
  10. DristoforColumb

    DristoforColumb New Member

    Can confirm that HDR fallback with HDR10+ EDID was not fixed, VS10 still appears
     
  11. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Can you guys do the following and tell me if it works:

    1. Set HDR to Mapping HDR10

    2. Play a DV/HDR10+ title - it will play in HDR10+

    3. Set HDR back to Auto

    4. See if the DV/HDR10+ title now works in HDR10+

    This only seems to work on Profile 7, not Profile 8.
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2023
  12. DennisTheMenace

    DennisTheMenace Active Member

    on some movies the fallback is fixed and on some not. Thats the result of my testing

    here is the media info of a mkv where i have a black picture, sound is working, but after 1min the movie crashes.
    hdr settings are on auto, z9x pro uses vs10 engine, and like i said no picture


    Format : Matroska
    Format-Version : Version 4
    Dateigröße : 23,2 GiB
    Dauer : 1 h 59 min
    Modus der Gesamtbitrate : variabel
    Gesamte Bitrate : 27,8 Mb/s
    Bildwiederholungsrate : 23,976 FPS
    Filmname : Platoon (1986)
    Kodierungs-Datum : 2022-09-16 10:13:31 UTC
    Kodierendes Programm : mkvmerge v70.0.0 ('Caught A Lite Sneeze') 64-bit
    verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : HEVC
    Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format-Profil : Main 10@L5.1@High
    HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
    Codec-ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
    Dauer : 1 h 59 min
    Bitrate : 23,3 Mb/s
    Breite : 3 840 Pixel
    Höhe : 2 076 Pixel
    Bildseitenverhältnis : 1,85:1
    Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate : konstant
    Bildwiederholungsrate : 23,976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
    Bit depth : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.122
    Stream-Größe : 19,5 GiB (84%)
    verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : x265 3.5+37+12-4e46995bc:[Windows][MSVC 1931][64 bit] 10bit
    Kodierungseinstellungen : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=6 / numa-pools=32 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x2076 / interlace=0 / total-frames=86238 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=250 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / vbv-maxrate=160000 / vbv-bufsize=160000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / crf-max=0.0 / crf-min=0.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=1 / aq-strength=1.00 / aq-bias-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(40000000,50) / cll=9952,5221 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.03 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass
    Default : Ja
    Forced : Nein
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics : PQ
    Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
    Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
    Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
    Maximum Content Light Level : 9952 cd/m2
    Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 5221 cd/m2
    Audio #1
    ID : 2
    Format : DTS XLL
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio
    Codec-ID : A_DTS
    Dauer : 1 h 59 min
    Bitraten-Modus : variabel
    Bitrate : 2 325 kb/s
    Kanäle : 6 Kanäle
    Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
    Samplingrate : 48,0 kHz
    Bildwiederholungsrate : 93,750 FPS (512 SPF)
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Compression mode : Lossless
    Stream-Größe : 1,95 GiB (8%)
    Titel : DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Mix)
    Sprache : Deutsch
    Default : Ja
    Forced : Nein
     
  13. DennisTheMenace

    DennisTheMenace Active Member

    here is the info where i have picture, but also vs10 engine is used
    hdr settings are on auto

    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 4
    File size : 24,0 GiB
    Duration : 1 h 29 min
    Overall bit rate : 38,4 Mb/s
    Frame rate : 23,976 FPS
    Movie name : Planet der Vampire (1965)
    Encoded date : 2023-02-06 19:13:17 UTC
    Writing application : mkvmerge v63.0.0 ('Everything') 64-bit
    Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : HEVC
    Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
    HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
    Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
    Duration : 1 h 29 min
    Bit rate : 33,8 Mb/s
    Width : 3 840 Pixel
    Height : 2 080 Pixel
    Display aspect ratio : 1,85:1
    Frame rate mode : konstant
    Frame rate : 23,976 (24000/1001) FPS
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
    Bit depth : 10 bits
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.176
    Stream size : 21,1 GiB (88%)
    Writing library : x265 3.5+82-82225f9a5:[Windows][GCC 12.2.0][64 bit] 10bit
    Encoding settings : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=6 / numa-pools=32 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x2080 / interlace=0 / total-frames=128755 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / temporal-layers=0 / no-open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=250 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf / crf=14.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / vbv-maxrate=160000 / vbv-bufsize=160000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / crf-max=0.0 / crf-min=0.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(8500,39850)B(6550,2300)R(35400,14600)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,01) / cll=1000,400 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass / no-mcstf / no-sbrc
    Default : Ja
    Forced : Nein
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.2020
    Transfer characteristics : PQ
    Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
    Mastering display color primaries : BT.2020
    Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
    Maximum Content Light Level : 1000 cd/m2
    Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 400 cd/m2
    Audio #1
    ID : 2
    ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
    Format : PCM
    Format settings : Little / Signed
    Codec ID : A_PCM/INT/LIT
    Duration : 1 h 29 min
    Bit rate mode : konstant
    Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s
    Channel(s) : 2 Kanäle
    Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz
    Frame rate : 30,000 FPS (1600 SPF)
    Bit depth : 16 bits
    Stream size : 983 MiB (4%)
    Language : Deutsch
    Default : Ja
    Forced : Nein
    Originales Source-Medium : Blu-ray
     
  14. fpinna

    fpinna New Member

    Stuttering/frame skipping in picture with 4K MKV (HDR 10/DV) and TrueHD+Atmos audio track selected (as originally reported on UHD5000) has not been fixed. Still present. No problem with non TrueHD+Atmos tracks.
     
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  15. DennisTheMenace

    DennisTheMenace Active Member

    I can confirm that, when played from usb drive enclosure in my case.

    That and that a few x265 files playing incorrectly on a Samsung HDR10 (+) OLED with the vs10 engine causes the player to crash. After fast forwarding. The player Crashes completely, or only the picture (blackscreen).
    I hope we can avoid using the vs10 engine on a non-Dolby Vision TV.
    It's just causing problems with my setup for whatever reason.
    This is unnecessary on an HDR10 television anyway. If you want to play SDR in HDR, you can set HDR mapping.
    Or am I misunderstanding this and it has an advantage on a non-Dolby Vision TV?

    In any case, the firmware is more stable for me than before, but it's still not perfect
     
  16. Laseriano

    Laseriano Member

    It seems that the new update fixes little.
    After listening to the engineer of the new R_Volution players who did not install the new RTD 1619BPD chips because they were unusable, I am starting to think about it.
     
  17. fattire

    fattire New Member

    Confirmed as well. Stuttering over both NFS and SMB still present on Z9X Pro.
     
  18. sandyj

    sandyj Member

    Do use snology NAS ?
     
  19. fattire

    fattire New Member

    Yes. Same layer 2 network. Everything hard-wired GbE.
     
  20. sandyj

    sandyj Member

    ok I had the same issue which is now fixed the issue was the NAS configuration for me and it did the same on my Z1000 and Z2000 pros.
    What specification model etc is your NAS and how are the drives configured ?
     

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