Beta version v1.0.60 for Z9X Pro release

added features like interal drive bay and better hi ress audio handling etc and all the extra dollers to buy em

 

Because the resolution for Loki from DSNP = 3840x2160. You could try 'Gen V' from AMZN 3840x1600 cropped HDR and you will see black bar aren't black

 

It's not an issue with DV movies - I'm not sure why people have that impression. It's an issue with cropped movies, so if your movies aren't cropped, you won't see the issue

It's not a huge difference - the only way I can see the problem is with a cropped black level pattern where I know the background is black @ 64.

If you raise black level on the image, you can really see it! (apologies for the reflections)



The level of the background layer is about 80.

 

ok, now it happened again after stopping a movie that my settings changed by themselves
From 4k60Hz to 180p 30Hz. And HDR from Auto to SDR. This happened after a movie stopped using Dolby Vision Vs10. Why is Vs10 even used when it is set to Auto? My TV only supports HDR or HDR10+.
Shouldn't the native Hdr10 fallback play on a Samsung TV when playing an MKV with Dolby Vision?
In any case, I then set the resolution back to 4k60hz and HDR to Auto. However, the same problems occurred again as with the previous firmware. The picture freezes and the sound continues.
I will now unplug the player and find out when exactly this error occurs. I just hope it doesn't happen as often as it did with v1.0.52, otherwise I'll have to reconnect my z9x.

 

HDR10/HDR10+ fallback should have been fixed in this release, but according to my tests it hasn't.

However there's someone reporting that it has so I'm not sure what's going on:

http://forum.zidoo.tv/index.php?threads/z9x-pro-and-hdr10.96883/#post-204116

(it was in the wrong forum so you probably didn't see it - I've moved it here)

 

OK I thought cropped means I have a black bar on top and bottom because the movie was not full screen 16:9 and I'm of course always watching original aspect no changes on z9 or tv...

so sorry, what does crop mean? I want to check if it's black or grey on my end here.

thanks!

 

It means for example a 3840x2160 video that's a letter boxed 2.40:1 presentation being cropped down to 3840x1600 to get rid of the black bars from the encoded video to save storage space.

 

thanks. if I'm getting rid of it how can they be grey? but anyway. not relevant for me I guess .... I never change something in the aspect ration or zoom in..

im besides my internal wishlist (currently 7 bullets) positively surprised by the device!

 

It's because for cropped video the background is a layer that's generated by the Zidoo with the cropped video on top.

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Can confirm that HDR fallback with HDR10+ EDID was not fixed, VS10 still appears

 

Can you guys do the following and tell me if it works:

1. Set HDR to Mapping HDR10

2. Play a DV/HDR10+ title - it will play in HDR10+

3. Set HDR back to Auto

4. See if the DV/HDR10+ title now works in HDR10+

This only seems to work on Profile 7, not Profile 8.

 

on some movies the fallback is fixed and on some not. Thats the result of my testing

here is the media info of a mkv where i have a black picture, sound is working, but after 1min the movie crashes.
hdr settings are on auto, z9x pro uses vs10 engine, and like i said no picture


Format : Matroska
Format-Version : Version 4
Dateigröße : 23,2 GiB
Dauer : 1 h 59 min
Modus der Gesamtbitrate : variabel
Gesamte Bitrate : 27,8 Mb/s
Bildwiederholungsrate : 23,976 FPS
Filmname : Platoon (1986)
Kodierungs-Datum : 2022-09-16 10:13:31 UTC
Kodierendes Programm : mkvmerge v70.0.0 ('Caught A Lite Sneeze') 64-bit
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format-Profil : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec-ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Dauer : 1 h 59 min
Bitrate : 23,3 Mb/s
Breite : 3 840 Pixel
Höhe : 2 076 Pixel
Bildseitenverhältnis : 1,85:1
Modus der Bildwiederholungsrate : konstant
Bildwiederholungsrate : 23,976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.122
Stream-Größe : 19,5 GiB (84%)
verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : x265 3.5+37+12-4e46995bc:[Windows][MSVC 1931][64 bit] 10bit
Kodierungseinstellungen : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=6 / numa-pools=32 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x2076 / interlace=0 / total-frames=86238 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=250 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf / crf=17.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / vbv-maxrate=160000 / vbv-bufsize=160000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / crf-max=0.0 / crf-min=0.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=1 / aq-strength=1.00 / aq-bias-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(13250,34500)B(7500,3000)R(34000,16000)WP(15635,16450)L(40000000,50) / cll=9952,5221 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / hist-threshold=0.03 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass
Default : Ja
Forced : Nein
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : Display P3
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 9952 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 5221 cd/m2
Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : DTS XLL
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio
Codec-ID : A_DTS
Dauer : 1 h 59 min
Bitraten-Modus : variabel
Bitrate : 2 325 kb/s
Kanäle : 6 Kanäle
Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE
Samplingrate : 48,0 kHz
Bildwiederholungsrate : 93,750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossless
Stream-Größe : 1,95 GiB (8%)
Titel : DTS-HD MA 5.1 (Mix)
Sprache : Deutsch
Default : Ja
Forced : Nein

 

here is the info where i have picture, but also vs10 engine is used
hdr settings are on auto

Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4
File size : 24,0 GiB
Duration : 1 h 29 min
Overall bit rate : 38,4 Mb/s
Frame rate : 23,976 FPS
Movie name : Planet der Vampire (1965)
Encoded date : 2023-02-06 19:13:17 UTC
Writing application : mkvmerge v63.0.0 ('Everything') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration : 1 h 29 min
Bit rate : 33,8 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 Pixel
Height : 2 080 Pixel
Display aspect ratio : 1,85:1
Frame rate mode : konstant
Frame rate : 23,976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.176
Stream size : 21,1 GiB (88%)
Writing library : x265 3.5+82-82225f9a5:[Windows][GCC 12.2.0][64 bit] 10bit
Encoding settings : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=6 / numa-pools=32 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / input-csp=1 / input-res=3840x2080 / interlace=0 / total-frames=128755 / level-idc=51 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=4 / no-allow-non-conformance / repeat-headers / annexb / aud / no-eob / no-eos / hrd / info / hash=0 / temporal-layers=0 / no-open-gop / min-keyint=23 / keyint=250 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=4 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=25 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / no-hist-scenecut / radl=0 / no-splice / no-intra-refresh / ctu=64 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=32 / tu-inter-depth=1 / tu-intra-depth=1 / limit-tu=0 / rdoq-level=2 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / no-ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=3 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=3 / merange=57 / temporal-mvp / no-frame-dup / no-hme / weightp / no-weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-3:-3 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / selective-sao=0 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / no-b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=0 / psy-rd=2.00 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rc=crf / crf=14.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / vbv-maxrate=160000 / vbv-bufsize=160000 / vbv-init=0.9 / min-vbv-fullness=50.0 / max-vbv-fullness=80.0 / crf-max=0.0 / crf-min=0.0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=32 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=1 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=9 / transfer=16 / colormatrix=9 / chromaloc=1 / chromaloc-top=2 / chromaloc-bottom=2 / display-window=0 / master-display=G(8500,39850)B(6550,2300)R(35400,14600)WP(15635,16450)L(10000000,01) / cll=1000,400 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / hdr10 / hdr10-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=0 / analysis-save-reuse-level=0 / analysis-load-reuse-level=0 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=1 / refine-ctu-distortion=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-analysis-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei / no-hevc-aq / no-svt / no-field / qp-adaptation-range=1.00 / scenecut-aware-qp=0conformance-window-offsets / right=0 / bottom=0 / decoder-max-rate=0 / no-vbv-live-multi-pass / no-mcstf / no-sbrc
Default : Ja
Forced : Nein
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics : PQ
Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries : BT.2020
Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 400 cd/m2
Audio #1
ID : 2
ID in the original source medium : 4352 (0x1100)
Format : PCM
Format settings : Little / Signed
Codec ID : A_PCM/INT/LIT
Duration : 1 h 29 min
Bit rate mode : konstant
Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 Kanäle
Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz
Frame rate : 30,000 FPS (1600 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 983 MiB (4%)
Language : Deutsch
Default : Ja
Forced : Nein
Originales Source-Medium : Blu-ray

 

Stuttering/frame skipping in picture with 4K MKV (HDR 10/DV) and TrueHD+Atmos audio track selected (as originally reported on UHD5000) has not been fixed. Still present. No problem with non TrueHD+Atmos tracks.

 

I can confirm that, when played from usb drive enclosure in my case.

That and that a few x265 files playing incorrectly on a Samsung HDR10 (+) OLED with the vs10 engine causes the player to crash. After fast forwarding. The player Crashes completely, or only the picture (blackscreen).
I hope we can avoid using the vs10 engine on a non-Dolby Vision TV.
It's just causing problems with my setup for whatever reason.
This is unnecessary on an HDR10 television anyway. If you want to play SDR in HDR, you can set HDR mapping.
Or am I misunderstanding this and it has an advantage on a non-Dolby Vision TV?

In any case, the firmware is more stable for me than before, but it's still not perfect

 

It seems that the new update fixes little.
After listening to the engineer of the new R_Volution players who did not install the new RTD 1619BPD chips because they were unusable, I am starting to think about it.

 

Confirmed as well. Stuttering over both NFS and SMB still present on Z9X Pro.

 

Do use snology NAS ?

 

Yes. Same layer 2 network. Everything hard-wired GbE.

 

ok I had the same issue which is now fixed the issue was the NAS configuration for me and it did the same on my Z1000 and Z2000 pros.
What specification model etc is your NAS and how are the drives configured ?