Audio too loud or too quiet

Discussion in 'ZIDOO X9S' started by dellenuvole, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    Hi All,
    During action scenes I must continue to lower the volume, then when there are the dialogue voices it needs increase the TV volume.
    I tried changed from Realtek Audio Settings the Playback effect parameters:
    "Night Mode" and "Comfort Mode", but unfortunately with a negative result.
    Are there any settings in the Box X9S or Zidoo Home Theatre that can be used to "level out" the audio?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. PacoRabanne

    PacoRabanne Well-Known Member Beta test group

    As far as I saw watching almost all action movies (AFAIK if encoded as 5.1) with a 2 audio channel device (like commnon Stereo equipment, headphones or TV), "effects" are always too loud, and dialogues too low.
    Seems related the center channel...
    I highly like to find a kind of "5.1 (or 7.1) channel mixer" able to increase or decrease each channel in the stereo downmix...
    Am I wrong?
     
  3. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    You've centered on the goal. But now we need to understand how it can be done.
    Maybe could give us one explanation one of the Zidoo team
     
  4. PacoRabanne

    PacoRabanne Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Yeah, but keep in mind that, AFAIK, no one device (even current TV, that is a shame) are able to do what we want.
    I suppose will be possible if you have an external 5.1 or 7.1 audio processor, like the Home Cinema amplifiers that a lot of users on this forum have, which (again, I suppose, I don't own any) should control any channel volume level independently.
    Again, I'm wrong?

    Now, will be a wonderful thing if Zidoo will be able to develop a "downmixer" with input channel individual level control!
    Too good to be true?
     
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  5. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    I own a little box "EMTEC N200", I can change the Audio Settings.
    If the option "Night Mode" is turned on, the audio output volume will be decreased to make you more comfortable.
    However, it's not necessary to have a blazoned brand of amplifiers
    Hopefully Zidoo Team will accept our request
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2017
  6. gamin

    gamin New Member

    +1
    should be added to the request feature !
     
  7. PacoRabanne

    PacoRabanne Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Looking around for this issue, quite often because depends on bad channel mixing on many movies, I saw that many DVD/BD player have some nice workaround, like dynamic compression or something called "night mode". The latter is a simple "preset" that increase the central audio channel (the one that plays dialogues) relative to all the other "effect" channel, to avoid too loud effect (like booms or crashes during action movie watching).
    There are some articles that explain how to change the "stereo downmix" formula (coefficients) to obtain this.
    Now I suppose is not so difficult to do this. And, better, to make this "preset" switchable also with a IR remote button ;)
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2017
  8. HaoSs

    HaoSs Well-Known Member Beta test group Contributor

    i hope @spring or @mirror see this, also having the same problem, i usually download big bluray's just to get the option for 2 ch audio.
     
  9. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    The way to balance "audio effects" and "voice" already exists, in Realtek Audio Setting (see the pic)
    I guess it's a bug or a Realtek chip limit

    Audio settings.png
     
  10. HaoSs

    HaoSs Well-Known Member Beta test group Contributor

    hm, dont remember this settings, does it do anything ?
     
  11. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    I get it that the problem was not properly captured.
    The setting is there. See Zidoo's Android Settings.(See the Pics)
    In any case I have already done some tests but it doesn't work.
    Try you too

    Audio settings 1.png





    Audio settings 2.png
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2017
  12. PacoRabanne

    PacoRabanne Well-Known Member Beta test group

    Maybe doesn't work due to HDMI RAW output you have selected?
    This function (or effect) have to be applied only for a stereo downmix.
    Have no sense for a raw output. Raw means without any processing, as it is.

    Anyway THANKS! I'll do some tests soon.
    I'd like to know the difference (different meaning of effects) between "Night" and "Confort" modes.
    I also like to know if those effects (if working) are applied on any audio output of only for some.
     
  13. HaoSs

    HaoSs Well-Known Member Beta test group Contributor

    Well. I use spdif pcm 2.0, will have problems with sound level. Not sure if the option is on tho. Will test tonight
     
  14. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    The pics that I posted above contribute to make you understand where find the Realtek Audio Setting
    The pics below are the settings I've set in my Zidoo box, but unfortunately don't work
    Paco Rabanne, about your doubts(the difference between "Night" and "Confort" modes), the answers can only be given by zidoo team
    I hope some of them give us clarifications about it in this topic
    I still think it's a bug or an irrelevant settings

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    Last edited: Oct 18, 2017
  15. PacoRabanne

    PacoRabanne Well-Known Member Beta test group

    A very brief test yesterday seems to confirm that both "Playback effects" don't do any noticeable result.
    But I don't have any "reference" material to check how downmixing adjust single 5.1 channel level in stereo output.

    Any other report from other users?

    I hope any feedback from Zidoo.
     
  16. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    Hi @HaoSs
    there are news, from the Zidoo team about this topic?
     
  17. HaoSs

    HaoSs Well-Known Member Beta test group Contributor

    Nope, seems i lost touch with zidoo, even @freeroc has bin ignoring me , not sure what they up to those days.
     
  18. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    Hi zidoo team
    I would like to know, if the mentioned problem will be fixed in some releases
    Many thanks
     
  19. dellenuvole

    dellenuvole New Member

    When are you aim to fix this bug?
    Could you give me an answer?
    Thanks
     
  20. xiuxiu

    xiuxiu New Member

    No news? It's really annoying.
     

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