@mirror -bug with DV Output Panasonic HZ-1500,z1000

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  1. moal

    moal Member

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    Last edited: Dec 5, 2020
  2. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    Pana z1000
    I get the DV top right on tv when i start an epi/movie ...then the black screen then DV and atmos come back top right on tv again

    Thats normal with these ,as far as i know

    Whats still broken to me is the Stutter and audio lag by 2 secs after about 5 mins into an MKV ..type7 and 8 far as i can tell ...mostly with DA audio tracks thou there is some stutter on 7.1 MA ie Bonds movies ...but this is well documented here on MANY posts already


    What seems to be working fine as i just tested is DV ve 5 on an mp4....ie just grabbed The Mandolorean s02 E02 with DV and DA and it worked fine no issues after 10 mins .... AND couldnt see a lot of difference in black levels between the DV version of epi2 and the hdr version mkv with DV 10 for HDR forced running
    mediainfo for the file
    ideo
    ID : 1
    Format : HEVC
    Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
    Format profile : Main 10@L5.2@Main
    HDR format : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.05.06, BL+RPU
    Codec ID : dvhe
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2020
  3. McBluna

    McBluna Well-Known Member

    Someone posted the firmware update for LG wasn't Zidoo or Dolby Vision related. It is to fix something with RTX 3000.
     
  4. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    has to be full movies to test on..samples like 20 30 secs wont show the issues
    ie Alita stutter is at around the 5 min mark ...on Justice league it starts at 3 min 44 when it gets bad and a few stutters earlier
    and same files with atmos turned off and 5.1 on zero issues
    And same alita file playing hdr10+ and atmos has no issues
    Pana z1000
     
  5. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    i think it occurs at chapter breaks
    i notice occassionally ill get the tv DV DA things pop back up and scrolling back forward and checking info,it always seems to be at a new chapter
    most the time its barely noticable
     
  6. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Well-Known Member

    Hello all,

    A person has problems to play movies in DV with his Pana HZ1000.

    Do you have an idea of the problem, is it the Zidoo or the Pana ?

    Is there a compatibility problem between the two device s?

    Source :
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/359160827825137/

    Translated in English

    ''Hello,

    It's my 2nd purchase of Z9X, the 1st one didn't convince me, and after reading your multiple flattering posts I bought it and think to keep it.
    But, after having followed your settings, no film goes to DV, except in very rare and random cases.
    Tested on ISO, whole rip, and new DV MKV. HDR10 is fine.
    On the other hand the sound and the logo, it is good! With black screen.
    Tv pana HZ1000, Denon 3600H, and tested several HDMI cables.
    (As I think you're a French speaker, it's easier for me in French)
    Thanks for your help''

    See you soon
     
  7. ghostshadow

    ghostshadow Member

    oui problème avec les Pana moi aussi j'ai des probléme pour ça que je suis resté en v6.0.90
    je suis pas sur que les nouvelles fonctions EDID conviennent justement.
    ya un soucis entre zidoo et la serie HZ
    Ecran noir, et faut toucher au paramètre (genre augmenter la luminosité de 1) enregistrer, redemarrer et la la tv declenche le DV.
    suis en VS10 SDR

    yes problem with the Pana I also have problems for that I stayed in v6.0.90
    I'm not sure the new EDID functions are suitable.
    there is a problem between zidoo and the HZ series
    Black screen, and you have to touch the parameter (like increase the brightness of 1) record, restart and the TV triggers the DV.
    am in VS10 SDR
     
  8. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Well-Known Member

    Hello Ghost,

    Merci pour l'info :)
     
  9. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    if your getting a black screen ,and are using alll the recommended Zidoo settings

    make sure the EDID thing is off

    and on the panasonic z1000

    Go to HDMI settings and for each HDMI port you can set it to one of two options
    ie hdmi 2 try it one way ,if black screen ,then try the other way

    i know that sorted a black screen issue when i was tinkering one day on the zidoo options

    Honestly thou with my Z9X and pana z1000 ,on this latest .25 f/w im playing ALL my DV files with zero stutter/ pauses or freezing at 76 min or even audio lagging

    and Zidoos correctly showing DV as well as the Pana when i hit info

    Also im running forced vs10 for hdr/sdr for tv series atm and liking (shows seperate vs10 for those on the zidoo and DV on the pana


    with 2 different Z9Xs ,it has to be either an HDMI cable ...the Denon 3600 amp or z1000 settings

    Have you tried Z9X direct to tv and earc back to amp to see if DV and 4k works correctly ?

    if it works fine there then issue may be denon settings or hdmi port issue ...try diff hdmi port on denon


    Just swapped my sony dn1080 for a Denon 3700H for the extra 2 heights and full HDR hlg hdro10+ Dv support and besides prolly being a lot lower amp power ,its working well ()besides hdmi timing issue at start up with Z9x
     
  10. OlivierQC

    OlivierQC Well-Known Member

    thank you cucnz, I will ask the person to come and read your message, it is on Facebook.
     
  11. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    nps i stopped all social media like FB 4 5 yrs ago now

    if its not the z1000 hdmi setting , go back to basics as above , ie , z9x direct to tv (ignore audio while sorting the video ) see if it works direct to tv if it does ,its denon issues maybe , if it doesnt its Z1000 settings or HDMI port issue ,but the Z1000 is working perfectly for me with almost identical gear ... 3600 denon is 3700 denon for me (but was originally sony dn 1080 which also had no issues
     
  12. Kemper

    Kemper New Member

    Good evening
    after multiple tests, direct zidoo connection to TV, HDMI mode 1, mode 2, no change. Black screen with DV logo. I have the image 1 time out of 10 !!
    I sincerely think as mentioned above has a concern of edid on the Pana HZ range!
    I am not desperate, will continue to search and it works for DV movies in "HDR10 mapping", but I bought it to take advantage of the DV
    Thanks for your help
     
  13. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    thing is im using the NEW EDID mode added a couple f/ws turned OFF

    and the Z9x sees my pana z1000 with no issues

    check in quick and advanced settings that the EDID mode is disabled

    i tried it on once ,when it was first added

    It added lots of DV modes in quick settings /display

    BUT most crashed to black screen

    i VERY quickly disabled the EDID "adjustment" mode
    TBH it wasnt needed since the zidoo sees the panasonic z1000 edid fine
     
  14. Kemper

    Kemper New Member

    still no change after my multiple tuning attempts. As long as there is DV, black screen.
    when testing the Zidoo in November, with the same config, reading all files worked
    without reading the dv of course. I am lost, and do not seem to be the only one, alas.
    (of course the edid is disabled)
     
  15. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    dont know what else to say

    zero issues with mine on any of the DV movies

    have you tried taking it back to a base level f/w and then reinstall this latest .25 version ?

    you could ring me at home and i could go over all the settings on zidoo and pana at same time but time zones an issue since im in nz and 12 hrs ahead ?

    ie this time of days ok 12hrs time for me isnt :p
     
  16. ghostshadow

    ghostshadow Member

    Hello, I had the same problems as you
    Kemper, for that I stayed on Firmware version 0.9

    It would be nice
    cucnz that you publish your parameters here.

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  17. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    heres my settings for Zidoo Z9X to Panasonic z1000

    Quick Settings

    \Playback \ HDMI Mode \ Lock Res 3840x2160p 60Hz

    \Display \ Colour \ 4k 50-60hz. \ YUV 420 10 bit
    \Display \ Colour \ 4k 23-30hz. \ YUV 422 10 bit
    \Display \ Colour \ non 4K ........\ YUV 444 10bit
    \Display \ Colour \ HDMI range\ 0-255
    \Display \ Colour \ Deep Colour \ On

    \HDR ...........DV VS10 for HDR/SDR

    \DV compatability \ Priority Standard DV (TVLED)

    \MaxCLL \ Maxcll and Maxfall \ ON

    \Custom EDID \ OFF

    \HDCP \HDCP 2.2 ON

    hope they help

    if no luck i can try similar for the TV settings
     
  18. Kemper

    Kemper New Member

    Hello
    I tried your settings, for the same result, black screen, I don't understand (I tested the HDMI of the TV in mode 1 and mode 2, only mode 2 works)

    (my son has been in new zealand for over a year, and it is true that the 12 hour shift is not easy to manage.)

    thanks for your help, and i didn't want to backtrack as i bought it for the dv.
     
  19. cucnz

    cucnz Active Member

    all i can say at this stage is try find a friend with a DV TV to test it on

    Maybe try to grab the tvs EDID and post it here for someone like Markswift to look at

    The combo is 100 perc working for me .....watched Knowing in DV last night , zero issues at all and with way better atmos effects now ive upgraded from the sony dn1080 to the Denon 3700H for the extra heights and full HDR playbacks

    TV firmware up to date ?
     
  20. ghostshadow

    ghostshadow Member

    thank you cucnz, your setting works on VS10 SDR + HDR, otherwise on the other settings I have a black screen
     

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