Multichannel FLAC file with CUE file problems

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by Z49845, Jun 13, 2023.

  1. Z49845

    Z49845 Member

    I have a big 5.1 channel flac file with 96kHz, 24 Bit and a cue file (ripped from my Bluray with Makemkv).
    If i play it then only every second try it plays normal. The other try is distorted in a strange way. I also can not jump to a track in the cue file, it always starts at the first track. But i if i play from start to end the "music" marker is always at the correct position in the cue file. With the stereo version i have no problems.

    I don't think that my cue file is the problem. It looks like this:
    PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
    TITLE "The Turn Of A Friendly Card Multichannel"
    FILE "The Turn Of A Friendly Card_Multichannel.flac" WAVE
    TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Maybe a price to pay"
    PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
    TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Games people play"
    PERFORMER "The Alan Parsons Project"
    INDEX 01 04:57:22

    Is multichannel flac really working with cue files? I am using the current beta.
     
  2. Z49845

    Z49845 Member

    I have found the problem, it is the multichannel flac conversion in Makemkv.

    This does NOT work (problems see above):
    Rip with Makemkv and profile Flac, select the LPCM 5.1 track, to a mkv file with a flac audio track. Extract with gmkvextractGUI the audio track in a flac file and the chapters in a cue file. Add song information to the cue file and tags to the flac file (with foobar2000).

    Mediainfo:
    Allgemein
    Vollständiger Name : J:\Audio\The Alan Parsons Project\The Turn Of A Friendly Card\The Turn Of A Friendly Card_Multichannel.flac
    Format : FLAC
    Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
    Dateigröße : 2,31 GiB
    Dauer : 40 min 11s
    Modus der Gesamtbitrate : variabel
    Gesamte Bitrate : 8 228 kb/s
    Album : The Turn Of A Friendly Card (Multichannel)
    Album/Künstler : The Alan Parsons Project
    Track-Name : The Turn Of A Friendly Card
    Künstler : The Alan Parsons Project
    Kodierendes Programm : libavcodec v58.134.100
    Audio
    Format : FLAC
    Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
    Dauer : 40 min 11s
    Bitraten-Modus : variabel
    Bitrate : 8 228 kb/s
    Kanäle : 6 Kanäle
    Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
    Samplingrate : 96,0 kHz
    Bit depth : 24 bits
    Compression mode : Lossless
    Stream-Größe : 2,31 GiB (100%)
    verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : MakeMKV v1.17.4 win(x64-release)


    This does work:
    Rip with Makemkv and standard profile, select the LPCM 5.1 track, to a mkv file with a LPCM audio track. gmkvextractGUI can not extract the audio, so i use tsmuxergui for this. Use the cue file from the first try.

    Mediainfo:
    Allgemein
    Vollständiger Name : J:\Audio\The Alan Parsons Project\The Turn Of A Friendly Card\The Turn Of A Friendly Card_Multichannel.flac
    Format : FLAC
    Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
    Dateigröße : 2,32 GiB
    Dauer : 40 min 11s
    Modus der Gesamtbitrate : variabel
    Gesamte Bitrate : 8 267 kb/s
    Album : The Turn Of A Friendly Card (Multichannel)
    Album/Künstler : The Alan Parsons Project
    Track-Name : The Turn Of A Friendly Card
    Künstler : The Alan Parsons Project
    Audio
    Format : FLAC
    Format/Info : Free Lossless Audio Codec
    Dauer : 40 min 11s
    Bitraten-Modus : variabel
    Bitrate : 8 267 kb/s
    Kanäle : 6 Kanäle
    Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs
    Samplingrate : 96,0 kHz
    Bit depth : 24 bits
    Compression mode : Lossless
    Stream-Größe : 2,32 GiB (100%)
    verwendete Encoder-Bibliothek : libFLAC 1.3.1 (2014-11-25)
     
  3. Z49845

    Z49845 Member

    I forgot. Extraction with tsmuxedrgui gives a wav file.I converted to flac with flac 1.31.
     
  4. Pete B

    Pete B Member

    What if you use AudioMuxer or Music Media Helper to extract the FLACs from the MKV?
     
  5. Z49845

    Z49845 Member

    Thanks, these two programs are new for me. The MMH looks interesting. May be i find with it why a few albums in the Zidoo music player have no artist at its picture (the flac files have this information). I also have a folder with 51 tagged flac files and the Zidoo makes one album with 50 files and a second album with the same name and one file. Really strange.
     
  6. Pete B

    Pete B Member

    I use AudioMuxer to extract FLACs from all the BD's I buy. It's really easy to use. I don't bother with a cue sheet but have seen the option in there.

    Music Media Helper is built by an admin on the Quadrophonic Quad www.quadraphonicquad.com forums and is apparently very flexible. I'd recommend you join the QQ forum too as it's an awesome resource for multichannel music and everyone plays nice.

    You may have seen another post I made about some weird Z9X behaviour when playing multichannel FLACs. If you have a folder containing an album's worth of multichannel FLACs, the Z9X will stop playing after the second-to-last track in the folder (it seems to treat it as the last track in the folder). Once the second-to-last track stops playing and you realise that there's a problem and "why hasn't the last track started playing yet?!", you can press the Chapter Up button on the remote and the last track will start playing. The Z9X doesn't behave like this with multichannel dsf's though and dsf's also play gaplessly which multichannel FLACs don't.

    Hope this helps.
     
  7. Z49845

    Z49845 Member

    My UHD3000 with the current beta firmware plays all titles in a folder with multichannel FLAC. I don't know if this worked with the last official firmware.
    Now i have solved most of my music problems. On some files was the album interpret tag missing, and some files like "artist - nn title.flac" had to be renamed to "artist - nn - title.flac".
    The only problem is that some artists does not have a picture. I know how to change the picture manually, but is there a way to take a file as the picture automatically? Like folder.jpg or cover.jpg for the album.
     
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