EDID thread (RTD1619DR players)

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by Markswift2003, Mar 18, 2021.

  1. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    Completely agree with that - HDMI is massive pain these days - goal posts almost seem to move on a daily basis!!
     
  2. studlygoorite

    studlygoorite Member

    Just thought I would come back and mention another weird thing happening. The last few days the projector and Z9X have detected HDR and worked as they should......but now.....my TV turns on by itself a couple of times while watching a movie with the projector . I don't have any CEC settings enabled in the TV or the Anthem lol. Dunno how or where the TV is getting the signal to turn on (might have something to do with what you mentioned above...that the TV could still send an EDID even in standby) but instead of pulling the HDMI out (going to the TV from the Anthem) while watching the projector, I bought a smart plug that the TV power plugs into that I can turn off so the TV doesn't even sit in standby mode, this has fixed the issue. Good times.....
     
  3. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    CEC is the work of the devil and should never be used....

    If it is CEC causing this, then one of these will kill it dead:

    https://www.lindy.co.uk/cables-adap...07/hdmi-cec-less-adapter-female-to-male-p7299

    It physically disconnects Pin 13 which is the pin of the devil!!

    Search CEC Blocker on Amazon...
     
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  4. rozel

    rozel Well-Known Member

    Haha! - that's a new one Mark - think it's a bit repetitive though - the whole forum knows CEC is the work of the Devil but I feel sure you can come up with a better name for PIN 13 lol
     
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  5. studlygoorite

    studlygoorite Member

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  6. badboyxx

    badboyxx Member

    I own a Samsung TV S90C77. Previously I got help here in this thread on how to configure the EDID settings so that everything is displayed correctly. Since I had to reset my Zidoo to factory settings, I had to re-configure the settings. Since the TV can only handle HDR content, I set Custom EDID to off. Unfortunately, all HDR movies are being played quite dark, but the message that HDR (whether HDR10+, HDR10 or HDR) has been detected appears in the top left corner of the TV.
    What am I doing wrong?
     
  7. Kevnmin

    Kevnmin New Member

    Hello, a newb here in this forum. I'm jumping in now with adding a previously owned Zidoo Z9X Pro into my system. I've been able to do a quick test hooking in by plugging into the front HDMI on my Marantz AV7704 processor which feeds to an Epson 5040ub. It took a couple tries to get it to display but eventually did. I tested some 3D iso movie rips and it played them fine. Fast forward a couple days and now I turn on the Zidoo, but get the no signal image. I'm guessing it's all handshake issues as I've temporarily tried the Zidoo on a newer Sony tv I have with DV and everything works fine.
    So here's my question after reading a bunch in the thread as well as the "recommended settings" thread. Since the Epson 5040 only does up to 300 MHz should I use the BT.2020 LLDV edid?
    Or should I be using a custom one for the Epson? I found a post from Nov 27, 2023 where a custom edid was provided for someone with an epson 5040, could I use that one?
    I've attached my current edid if it helps.(granted it's still from the front HDMI port on processor and not sure if that makes a difference).
     

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  8. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    You should only use a custom EDID if you have a specific reason to change some feature of your display and/or AVR/amp - for example if you want to output Dolby Vision to a non Dolby Vision display.

    Front HDMI ports on receivers tend to have restricted features so I'd first try plug in at the back. Not saying the front port is knobbled, but I've had Denon amps with restricted front HDMI ports and Marantz are from the same stable.
     
  9. Visconti12

    Visconti12 Well-Known Member

    Yes, they are normally configured as HDMI-out such the case of my Denon X6700H dedicated for camera recording.
     
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  10. Kevnmin

    Kevnmin New Member

    I thought the front HDMI might be part of my handshake issue. I'll get everything hooked up permanently this afternoon running into back HDMI ports.
    Further questions:
    1. Since I do want to be able to output DV and the Epson is non-DV, should I use the BT.2020 EDID in the Zidoo or request a custom EDID for my setup?

    2. Or instead of fussing with EDID change, would it be easier to use the VS10 engine for HDR & DV?
     
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  11. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    The BT.2020 LLDV included will be fine - you just have to be able to manually switch the Epson into its HDR mode when you output LLDV.

    Also worth experimenting with VS10 modes to see which you prefer. Don't dismiss VS10 SDR as this can work really well with projectors - depends how well they handle HDR.
     
  12. Kevnmin

    Kevnmin New Member

    Again, much thanks for your sharing your knowledge & advice! :D
     
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  13. badboyxx

    badboyxx Member

    I have a Samsung OLED TV. Is it possible to watch DV content in a good quality?
     
  14. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    Hellfire, absolutely yes!

    Native Dolby Vision looks stunning on a Samsung.

    But... You need an HDFury device to send an HDR10 SEI message to switch the Sammy into HDR mode because, common to most TVs and unlike a lot of PJs, you can't manually switch them into HDR mode.
     
  15. badboyxx

    badboyxx Member

    What would be the most favorable solution? Which HDFury do I need?
     
  16. Rainer

    Rainer New Member

    I have an anthem MRX-1140, older JVC 4k (not true 4K) projector and a Sony 4K TV and what I do is use the output from my Anthem to a A Ezcoo splitter which spoofs the edid
    so it always looks like it supports 4k Dolby Vision, Atmos and all the colour profiles. its inexpensive $36 Canadian, if your using dolby vision to your projector you will have to
    set it to HDR manually. if you want to get around this you can use an HD Fury even the arcana works and it will send a signal to switch on the HDR

    I don't think the Anthem is at fault as it just passes through the video without altering it
    the signal is just duplicated to the other hdmi ports the whole chain gets screwed as there are 2 different edids in the chain, the 2 ports are not discrete
     

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  17. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    I'd recommend a Vertex 2 if you're sticking with 4K for the foreseeable future, or, if not, a Vrroom.

    I believe you can use an Arcana as a set and forget device but the Vertex/Vrrooms are so much better for diagnostics and dicking about with.

    The key is being able to send a custom HDR signal only when LLDV is received - the older devices (Vertex 1, integral 2) can send an HDR signal but not on demand - it's either on permanently or off which isn't ideal.
     
  18. badboyxx

    badboyxx Member

    If the Vertex 2 wouldn't be so expensive, I would have already bought one. I'll have to think about it.
    I would like to stick with 4K for a longer term.
     
  19. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    Yep, they ain't cheap!!
     
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  20. badboyxx

    badboyxx Member

    Thank you for the clarification Mark.
     

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