new android folder for system files

Discussion in 'ZIDOO X6 Pro' started by grummel2005, Mar 20, 2016.

  1. grummel2005

    grummel2005 Well-Known Member

    we all could not use KODI and ZDMC parallel because of the same used folder in ANDROID

    could you PLEASE (!!!) do NOT use the following folder for ZDMC

    /sdcard/Android/data/ORG.XBMC.KODI

    and change the use e.g. maybe in

    /sdcard/Android/data/ORG.XBMC.ZDMC
    or
    /sdcard/Android/data/COM.ZIDOO.ZDMC
    or such things?

    thx a lot to all people which have problems
    would this be possible

    in new firmware you only have to change the folder name :)
    and do a copy routine afterwords and when this is done and contents compared the old one could be deleted

    THX THX THX
     
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  2. grummel2005

    grummel2005 Well-Known Member

    @spring
    do you think about this?
     
  3. grummel2005

    grummel2005 Well-Known Member

  4. Mafarricos

    Mafarricos New Member Beta test group

    I would also like that!
     
  5. Harlan

    Harlan Active Member


    There really shouldn't be a problem under the Android build system, unless everyone is using the same app ID. It's axiomatic that apps with the same names and different IDs can't read each other's data or own one another's folders on an Android device. So long as different IDs are used they can all employ the same name and the store or system wil execute or update the correct free, pro, alpha, or beta version of an app - and they can be installed side by side like that forever. The only conflict that arises is when a third program calls for a common resource that they each can provide and the user has to pick one from the list "just once" or "always". Third party plugins, wizard scripts, and repositories should be using relative path names anyway, but I suspect ZDMC is still using those folder names for backward compatibility.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2016
  6. cyber7

    cyber7 Active Member Beta test group

    As far as I understand, ZDMC and KODI is the same product. ZDMC just comes with:
    1. A name change due to KODI's attitude towards RK chips. (Nothing to do with Zidoo)
    2. A RK fix for KODI.

    So, in a nutshell, it is the same product.

    UNLIKE SPMC, which is a completely different product, a complete and new fork specifically for ANDROID (Not Rockchip) devices. They (SPMC) actually states on their website "Important: No more Rockchip specific support as of this version".

    So, when you install ZDMC, you are actually installing KODI with one basic fix. I like it that way and would not like this to change...

    ps - If you DO want to run KODI, you have to uninstall ZDMC and then install KODI, but then you are missing out of the basic fix for the RK chips. (Stupid if you ask me...)
     
  7. Harlan

    Harlan Active Member

    Re: "As far as I understand, ZDMC and KODI is the same product. ZDMC just comes with:
    1. A name change due to KODI's attitude towards RK chips. (Nothing to do with Zidoo)
    2. A RK fix for KODI."

    No the XBMC.org folks are threatening to sue any OEM for trademark infringement, if they dare to advertise the obviuos fact that their products (containing Kodi) can be used to view copyrighted content for free via IPTV, without obtaing the respective owner's consent. It's sort of like Claude Rains pocketing his casino winnings in the scene from Casablanca, while pretending to be utterly shocked to discover that there's gambling at Rick's Cafe. See for example, Their claim that "The Piracy Box Sellers and Youtube Promoters Are Killing Kodi" https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box-sellers-and-youtube-promoters-are-killing-kodi/

    Since their software is open sourced, the wise thing to do is just fork it, use a different app ID, and rebrand it as a competing product. Everyone in the commercial Linux distribution business has been doing that sort of thing for years.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2016
  8. cyber7

    cyber7 Active Member Beta test group

    PS2: Why can Zidoo not just release the fixes within KODI as an APK? In that way, they (KODI) will do full support of their own SW and Zidoo only support the APK?
     
  9. cyber7

    cyber7 Active Member Beta test group

    @Harlan : No, that is not quite what KODI is saying...

    What they are actually saying is that:
    1. If you CHANGE the code, you can not say it is KODI.
    2. If you bundle your product with KODI and links to pirated STREAMS, they will prosecute.

    In Zidoo's case, they modify some of the sources (and make it available - AWESOME), but people read it as "piracy" because of POINT2, not a fix as in POINT1. I would like to see Zidoo leave KODI as is, just supply a "fix" in the form of an APK that gets applied once you install KODI.

    MUCH BETTER from Zidoo and KODI's point of view. Everybody will then be happy...
     
  10. grummel2005

    grummel2005 Well-Known Member

    very funny that YOU tell us this?!?!
    I told this months ago and YOU told us that this is stupid to do?!?
    what a crap :(
     
  11. spring

    spring Guest

    Hi all:
    if change the path, maybe cause some of the addon install errror.
    and we have use this path, will cause the OTA upgrade fail for ZDMC.
     
  12. grummel2005

    grummel2005 Well-Known Member

    "maybe" not because ZDMC changed the path as well
    and it is not okai to use a path for an app which is on another name to block the original one

    normal and good programmed addons are functioning in the area where the startet "kodi-system" is
    no problem if this is KODI, ZDMC or SPMC or others
    they use a relative path no fixed path, because in android you could on smartphones or other devices put the KODI stuff on SD-card as well - okai?

    if you have fail via OTA then your programmers are not able to programm
    as it has to be in 1.0.35 :(

    programming should be very strict and not today this way and tomorrow that way
    and regulations shuld be used every time
    so ZDMC does not has to be in KODI folders
     
  13. Harlan

    Harlan Active Member

    The threat published in the link I cited applies even if an OEM preloads an unmodified copy of Kodi from the Google store. Packaging GPLd third party addons isn't modifying their code either:

    "Our solution to this problem is pretty straightforward. We now own the trademark to Kodi, and we plan to use it to finally battle the mass confusion created by those seeking to profit on unaware users.

    This means we will issue trademark takedown notices anywhere we think the likelihood for confusion is high. If you are selling a box on your website designed to trick users into thinking broken add-ons come from us and work perfectly, so you can make a buck, we’re going to do everything we can to stop you. If you are making a video in which you claim to be a Kodi developer or Kodi team member or you are just using the Kodi name while assuring users that some pirate add-on is totally legal and isn’t going to break next week, we will do everything we can to take you down."

    You're forgetting that XBMC.org has taken out a trademark on a whole lot of code developed by third party GPL copyright owners, including those programmers with day jobs working for box makers, like Zidoo. I doubt that they are going to be happy to unbundle their software or firmware from their hardware and provide everyone (including competitors) free updates to boot. Anyone who's ever used Nvidia or Broadcom firmware or drivers on Linux knows the score on the standoff between OEMs and the "non-profit" .orgs and foundations.

    P.S Pardon all the edits, I just love dueling with Android auto correct.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2016
  14. cyber7

    cyber7 Active Member Beta test group

    @Harlan
    I will have a look at the differences between KODI and ZDMC over the next couple of days. I think that I can safely say the differences is not going to be that big and should be able to be distributed as a addon (apk).

    Now, if I am right, then nothing stops me from installing KODI and then applying the apk as a 'fix'. This is totally acceptable according to all the guidelines KODI is setting, namely:
    1. The KODI code is not being changed on installation.
    2. The KODI trademark is not being infringed
    3. The fix (apk) applied is not contravening any trademarks, nor does it promote piracy.

    just my 10c
     
  15. Xoxi Xiola

    Xoxi Xiola Member

    ZDMC should be separated, exactly the same way as SPMC is. Amen.
     
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  16. grummel2005

    grummel2005 Well-Known Member

    yes that is the only way to stop this confusing installation from ZDMC in KODI folders!!!

    definitiv
    +1
     
  17. cobra78

    cobra78 Member

  18. grummel2005

    grummel2005 Well-Known Member

    @cobra78 thats what i said in the beginning :)
     
  19. dimtris

    dimtris Member

    +2
     
  20. PacoRabanne

    PacoRabanne Well-Known Member Beta test group

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