Hello! I intend to use both Eversolo A8' analog outs for a biamping project. RCA will be fed into Yamaha a-s1200 Main In and used for powering Wharfedale Jade 7 mids/highs. XLR will be connected to two class d monoblocks from Audiophonics which then will power the lows of the same boxes. Since the both mentioned Outs of Eversolo provide different voltage levels, I have to understand if there's a way to level out this difference in the Eversolo because otherwise the bass will be noticeably louder.. Thank you!
Hi , in short as long as one amp of , ( 1 ) your amps as has an output gain controls or input level gain controls , or master control for volume output you can now achieve level Management, matching the high output to the low end output, it will work fine, even a few thousand dollar BRYSTON electricronic cross over only provides high pass out Control only of —10 or +10 db of adjustment in over all high pass gain, however it appears you will be passive bi-ampping it will work out fine, also using my A8 , Their is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE, in loudness output using XLR OR RCA. output, their are many many numerous debates in regards to this area, most from folks that don’t even own a unit, such as an A8, in reference to measurements, either output pushes out the same amount of grunt or volume no more no less, from your above statement, I don’t believe or foresee you running into any problems.. However, it would be nice eventually, if you had to identical amplifiers, that way, you could vertical bi amp , but conventional bi ampping is fine. Best of luck to you. It’s a lot of fun, and also better over sounding audio system, within most applications, depending upon the remainder of the system. especially within the overall design and operation of your loudspeakers, Room , source, electronics, etc. Us guys here have not employed a conventional Stereo only audio system in years, not in every particular case, but if you have the ability bi ampping, absolutely the way to go and a few folks personal opinion only, by the way you put up a very nice detailed diagram, ;-) I like that ! ‘Please have a good week /weekend …
Thanks for your reply Biamp300B! I experienced a huge volume difference between RCA and XLR in A8 unfortunately. The only hardware solution in my opinion - since neither of the amps has adjustable Input gain - would be to insert XLR attenuators (-6dB) before the monoblocks thus matching XLR and RCA levels. But I hoped to do so programmatically..
Yes you are correct if you are going into a truly designed Balanced input, absolutely I agree 100% the XLR output absolutely should have a higher level output. with most of our equipment, being balanced, truly balanced at times there is somewhat of a noticeable difference however, the three of us here that have Eversolo units have found Lil or no difference within XLR or RCA output. I am not insinuating that their measurements are wrong what I’m trying to STATE is Lil to no difference and overall output was ever achieved, when using my A8, I can actually alternate between RCA two XLR and hear absolutely no substantial overall difference in output. These are also fully and truly balanced units. Example Balanced Audio technology preamp can’t get much more balance than that same source same level same everything however I fully understand what you are stating, your integrated amplifier that you wanted to employ if I’m not mistaken does that not have a master volume control on the integrated amplifier, this is something unfortunately I believe you may want to try naturally, so one part of the loudspeaker is not overpowering the other drivers if you are going to run the integrated amplifier on the top end example on the Twitter you’re probably won’t need anymore than 10 /12 watts again if you’re powering the top end naturally the class D amps will be on the woofers if I am following you correctly, there are simple, passive attenuators, such as I use at times that will actually give you full control over every driver as far as level output, but I don’t want to get ahead of myself on what you are trying to achieve. Are these two-way speakers or three-way speakers? Just wondering… Sorry, just taking a quick peek at your very nice schematic diagram. That is an integrated amp. You are running on the top end., I actually cannot foresee any problems as your top end of your loudspeakers can be controlled with the Yamaha integrated amp, or output or volume loudness or level would be controlled by the Yamaha run your class D’s full range on the woofers. You also have the output control to coincide with the two from your Eversolo unit itself. From my understanding in view, your loudspeakers would sound and work quite well, also are you running Your A8 in the volume pass through mode on both outputs or the unit’s volume control on the A8,
OK, I will give it a try tomorrow without any tweaks. For the hardware solution I kind of like the Palmer Monicon Classic. I will come back here and report of the results. Thank you!
That should be and sound very interesting, I belive everything should work out very well from my observation best of luck
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OK, I'm back in good ol' Germany Yesterday, I hooked everything up according to the system layout provided and ran the rig for several hours to see if the gain difference in the power amps would cause a noticeable imbalance between the highs and lows. All I can say is that even without the attenuator, the overall sound seems well-balanced and uniform to my ears, with none of the low-end over-representation I was anticipating. I’ll still test the attenuator when it arrives, but as of right now, this setup is more than sufficient for me. The Eversolo is a great piece of gear Thank you all and have a great weekend!
Hi ,This bi-amplificationn Journey can be somewhat a little tricky, naturally for people that may be somewhat unfamiliar also in accordance with countless or numerous other makes manufacture, etc.,in trying to do so, You can also set the volume or gain outputs within your Eversolo with RCA out and XLR out , with totally separate adjustability, as you proceed into the future you may want to look into an electronic crossover your amplifiers will both run and perform this task, much more efficiently and effectively within a certain extent with much more control, naturally rising, and better sonics, however with most of today’s equipment this is Remains a very important factor, but I don’t believe as pertinent as of today in terms of past equipment and experiences in a given Bi amp setups, The old timers called this fools Bi-ampping, as when true Bi amplification takes place the signal from your Amplifiers have already been adjusted for those specific frequencies and roll offs. today there are a number of electronic Crossovers on the market that don’t Cost a Kings ransom like days of past. I have tryed out one of the little, Sublime Crossovers with excellent and Extremely surprising success, in comparative to the past Units . Absolutely a little bit of work but when dialed or adjusted in properly. You might say it was well worth it, in end result, as you presently retain the amps, your almost home, I found most folks go back in using one Stereo amplifier, manifesting from improper use also another big factor was costs, not so much today, as shown below, Excellent Sonics and performance, in comparison to a unit costing many time over, I have no association with Please have a great weekend, enjoy
So, after inserting the Palmer device in between the Eversolo and Audiophonics I am now able to fine-tune the balance between the Yamaha and the Audiophonics. As far as I can tell this is a viable solution especially useful for listening to classic, jazz and such. Then I just reduce the volume of the monoblocks by 5-8 dB. Metallica, Iron Maiden, Slayer and so on - basically no need to adjust, just let it at 0dB all the way to the right, it seems to work out just fine. Somehow the both low-end drivers per side seem to consume so much energy that the higher gain is being balanced out quite a bit. Thank you all and have a nice day!
Hi , i’m very happy to hear the bi amplification system is an operational performance, you can absolutely keep things going OK using the passive CROSSOVERS inside the loudspeakers, however, if you ever get a chance to incorporate the use of an electronic crossover now you would really absolutely be somewhat amazed, as I have explained before in which I’m sure you’re aware in doing such those amplifiers will only deliver and put out certain frequencies by not using or working the amplifiers within a full range signal, and only producing which is required within your high and low can absolutely be a major difference. everything amplification wise is now working and performing at it’s absolute best, *very nice schematic of your hookup application appears complete and correct, Also, I uncertain there is a 30 day return period or longer, but I would be highly doubtful that you would be returning it. The unit does stipulate 3 way on the front, but the unit could also be used as 2 way. The difference can be absolutely amazing in overall Sonic’s You are certainly at a whole different level with the crossover which also includes full adjustability, and the cost is absolutely justifiable as of today, in my personal preference and opinion. also you can always use your new attenuator for fine tuning in an other area of Application Development within the system, eather way a nice unit to have on standby for use, but try it you’ll like it , as your system may progress into the future, Best of luck to you have a great time , ;-) Please have a wonderful weekend , enjoy the music ☝️
Hello , I was wondering how are you making out with Your Bi Amp configuration, what are your current findings negative or positive doesn’t matter, just a little curious, no problems, if you care to reply, if not, no worries, hopefully, you are enjoying the set up. That’s all it counts. certainly is somewhat interesting. Naturally every system in setup has his advantages and disadvantages, especially with the added expense. I absolutely hope you’re having a wonderful time enjoy just curious, no problems it’s all good ;-) you have a wonderful weekend
