Regarding DSD Native support of USB external DAC

Discussion in 'Eversolo DMP-A6' started by mirror, Jun 21, 2023.

  1. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Active Member

    Do you have the USB DAC output setting of the DMP-A6 ME set "Native (DSD Native)"? If you do are you sure the USB input of the Pioneer U-05 processes DSD natively?
     
  2. DejanM

    DejanM New Member

    The answer to both questions is: yes.
     
  3. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Active Member

    Ok. Not sure what the issue may be. Using the USB out of the DMP-A6 to the USB-DAC input of my Marantz SA-KI Ruby I get DSD.
     
  4. Jamesw72

    Jamesw72 Member

    Question, is DSD a thing now? I was under the impression that it’s not really used now due to hi res PCM / etc.. Thoughts?
     
  5. Nutul

    Nutul Well-Known Member

    It is "a thing" the same way hi-res PCM is "a thing".
    Basically, hi-res (well, it's more a high sample-rate) PCM has little to no improvement to your hearing, BUT can help the DAC itself, as almost every single DAC out there DOES upsampling, and so you give it some relief presenting it with already up(over?) sampled material.
    One draw back for DSD: you cannot apply any (ANY) form of sound manipulation to a DSD stream without PRIOR converting it to linear PCM (which is a resource consuming process, if not also a time - read: latency, if you watch movies, or video-clips...).
    The real differences are in the mastering and mixing of the source: some albums are done well, some others are not. The better done, the more detail, soundstage, instrument separation, etc. etc.
    As a mere example, in my collection of CDs (about 1400, all ripped to FLAC myself) there are about 50 that are mastered and mixed in an exceptional way, and do sound different from the others in the terms expressed before.
    Also, when critical listening, I tend to turn the lights off and listen with my eyes closed. Silly? It helps me reduce external distraction, leaving my brains concentrate to one source of stimuli: the ears.
     
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  6. Jamesw72

    Jamesw72 Member

    Thank you for your reply. So I presume you have to purchase / download DSD tracks / albums or is there streaming services?

    I presume not the latter ..
     
  7. GeNeRiKz

    GeNeRiKz Active Member

    I have not seen a DSD streaming service... yet.

    Other legal options are:
     
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  8. sbrocco

    sbrocco New Member

    Hello all.
    As of today, chord mojo 2 is supported for native dsd by usb out?
    Thank you very much
     
  9. bradbort

    bradbort Active Member

    I am sending a dsd file to a denafrips ares 2 dac from a a6 series 2 via usb

    The eversolo screen is showing dsd64 2.82mhz 5 ch 14.11 mbps 1 bit.
    PCM 352.8 kHz

    The denafrips dac is showing a file at high resolution, but the DSD light is not lighting up.
     
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  10. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Active Member

    Maybe that is because it's a multichannel file. Have you tried playing a stereo DSD file? Also what do you have "DSD audio" set to in the "USB DAC output" settings?
     
  11. bradbort

    bradbort Active Member

    Thanks. I was mostly posting because the top of this string says to list DACs where there are issues. It’s possible about the multi-channel being an issue. I actually only have the one DSD file to test though :). The eversolo is set up to pass native DSD,not PCM.
     
  12. Nutul

    Nutul Well-Known Member

    Probably it performs a downmixing from 5.1 to 2 channels, and since any manipulation of DSD files cannot be performed without FIRST converting them to PCM, that could be the reason why it gets converted...
    You should try a 2-channel DSD; there are some sites that offer files for download, mainly demos, or something in the lines of; nevertheless, pure stereo.

    Just scratched the web quickly, try here: https://wechdomi.org/english/index.html
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2025
  13. bradbort

    bradbort Active Member

    I’ll give that a shot. Last device I used it in was an oppo205 that did its own conversion. I literally only tried it because I had the file. I’m not driven to collect a lot of dsd files :)
     
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  14. bradbort

    bradbort Active Member

    Test
     
  15. Jari Salonen

    Jari Salonen New Member

    I have similar combo of Ares 2 and DMP-A6 Master Edition. Today I bought an album as DSD 256 .
    Plays perfectly, sounds great and DSD light lights up.
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2025
  16. Nutul

    Nutul Well-Known Member

    It is a stereo album, not a multichannel one, right?
     
  17. bradbort

    bradbort Active Member

    Looks like it. i think you were right that the problem was the file I was trying to play was multi channel.
     
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  18. Jari Salonen

    Jari Salonen New Member

    Yes, it is a stereo album.
     
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  19. j2j

    j2j Member

    I had purchased DSD music from HDtracts, [Susan Wong: My LIVE stories] and [Susan Wong: Close to Me] . [Susan Wong: My LIVE stories] is DSD/64/5.1 Surround and [Susan Wong: Close to Me] is DSD/64. In A10, only [Susan Wong: Close to Me] is play with DSD 2.82 MHz, and [Susan Wong: My LIVE stories] play with PCM 352.8 kHZ.
    Why? Does A10 not support DSD 5.1? How to solve the problem?
     
  20. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Active Member

    See post #152 in this thread.
     
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