Dolby Vision 2

Another Headache to Resolve Upgrade / Compatibility do we need Right Now
Are Zidoo Media Boxes Upgradable to this ?

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1756820140

 

i dont think so is posible in software upgrade...maybe with hardware upgrading...next player

 

Aside from the fact that it will take at least 2-3 years for this Dolby Vision 2 to take hold... and then guys... are you really buying all this nonsense? They have to come up with something new for companies to move forward. Practically all of us, according to them, should replace the media players, TVs, and video projectors we just purchased... It's just a marketing thing. From a quick read I gave, it seems like it will be based heavily on artificial intelligence, which for us purists who seek the most natural image possible, I don't think is ideal. And besides, we've already achieved incredible quality with 4K Dolby Vision content. The next step to make the leap will be 8K or 12K with microLED technology, but that will still be several years away! Stay calm!

 

Dolby Vision is an overhyped mess and riddled with bugs now, never mind all this nonsense!

 

marketing or not, they do this just so people will buy other new products, consumerism over quality, this is the line dictated these days, in the past it was about quality vs. quantity...

 

You should know that for me Dolby Vision is even better than HDR10 or HDR 10+, HDR HLG, since I got the Z9X8K almost everything I watch is with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos (My TV Sony XH9505)

 

Marketing is designed to get people to buy new products, just for that. The truth is that technology has reached a standstill and TVs haven't offered any major innovations for years. Video quality has reached very high levels and it's even difficult to go beyond that. Dolby Vision 2 will most likely be the same Dolby Vision we have now but with a different name, created solely to attract people to buy new products. It remains to be seen whether there will actually be an increase in quality, but I have my doubts, and even if such an increase were true, I don't think people would be willing to buy everything from scratch to get 10-20% more quality. Always remember that our eyes also have physical limitations, and after a certain distance, the differences are no longer noticeable. Dolby Vision 2 isn't necessarily going to be successful. One example was 8K and HDMI 2.2; objectively, 8K is superior in every way, but it was a flop.

 

I'd say 10-20% is being way too generous - a lot of people at normal viewing distances can't tell the difference between a good 1080p image and 4k.....most of us here aren't normal though

 

Thing is, what can Dolby Vision even do in the name of "creator intent" that hasn't already been done?

Tacking on more "brightness" and "color" seem to be in direct contradiction to how movies are graded nowadays. Nevermind AI motion smoothing...

 

Also note that the Films have to be created or with Dolby Vision 2 Encoded or added etc
So that could take ages to do also …..

As mentioned will most see or notice the diff ?

Just imagine Apple + Now with Dolby Vision 2 at an extra cost of $$$ to your subscription price

 

And it's also a two tiered system. There's your standard Dolby Vision 2 and then there's Dolby Vision 2 Max with the complete feature set.

Incredible.

 

Hahahaha, I just read this. I think they have no one to sell the old Dolby Vision licenses to anymore and they need to sell something new to make money... and here's the great marketing ploy... Dolby Vision 2 Standard and Max!!!

 

Dolby Vision seems to be going the way of THX - a dubious marketing exercise that started with a good idea.

At the start Dolby Vision was conceived as a format based on HDR10 which was designed to make any presentation in any environment on any display from any source exactly the same.

A good idea but extremely flawed for obvious reasons - mainly the environment bit.

But then Sony screwed things up with their underpowered Dolby Vision displays so Dolby had to come up with an answer quickly for them - and that answer was LLDV - repurposed from a technology designed for gaming.

From that point on the original idea fell away in tatters to the point where you couldn't even guarantee that every source was even compatible with every display, never mind look the same!

Now we have a situation where some Dolby Vision functions work and some don't and this changes per SDK - so every source has its hidden flaws, and what those flaws change per source.

Stacey Spears was the first to point out the chroma weight issue and it just got worse from there.

But, and here's the crux - unless it's pointed out to you with a test pattern, it's likely you'll never notice - which kind of makes the whole thing a bit pointless anyway - Aside from Profile 5, in the main, Dolby Vision is an HDR10 technology - so in reality it's probably better to stick with HDR10, but then even that is implemented differently by different displays so what's the answer?

Personally I think that a display that can dynamically tone map an HDR10 signal is probably the current best option, or indeed a display that doesn't need to tone map at all!

And don't get me started on HDR10+.....

 

Dolby Vision works great with my setup. I would presume DV2 probably scales back to DV1, much like Atmos. Not worries at all. Wonder if new Apple TV 4K box will support it.

 

Can the Zidoo do the full version Dolby Vision 2 MEL FEL BEL DEL HEL TEL WEL or do I need an Ugoos for that

 

Before you go down that route you need a new Dolby Vision 2 Display first as its doubtful older displays can be upgraded or there reluctant
to for obvious reasons ………

 

Some useful facts ...
https://www.whathifi.com/tv-home-ci...-dolby-vision-2-and-we-have-good-and-bad-news

 

Hey Dolby, door's in the same place it was when you came in.

 

Willing or not, DV2 is something will talk about, buy and enjoy sooner or later!!

 

It'll be interesting to what level they release the SDKs.

They've got to be really fed up with people stomping around their previously walled garden in size tens and I can't help wondering if Dolby Vision 2 hasn't been precipitated to maybe some small degree by this.