Beta version v6.4(7).42 for Z9X/Z10 Pro/Z1000 Pro/UHD3000/NEO S/NEO X/NEO Alpha release

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by mirror, Oct 18, 2022.

  1. Deano86

    Deano86 Active Member

    We are offering you an alternative that indeed works.. it's up to you whether you want to follow it so you can enjoy those movies on your player right now or if you would rather die on the hill of the " menus are supposed to work and they don't complaint " and go without. Seems like you have made your decision.
     
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  2. khollister

    khollister Member

    I have never understood the desire to use BD menus myself. While it is a little simpler to rip the whole disc rather than create the labels for the separate MKV's, I much prefer not having to wade through menu screens, copyright warnings and previews (older BD's) with the disc menus. Love going right to the start of the film.

    To each his own.
     
  3. Gilgamesh

    Gilgamesh Active Member

    same, I just download remuxes or rips where it's only the movie, much easier and no problems.
     
  4. Phil181

    Phil181 Active Member

    I am unsure how you are using the software, but the name of the program does give away what it is designed for - making an MKV file :D
    I've never created a BDMV structure using MakeMKV, only .mkv's, so I don't know how you are using it.
    Once you load a disk or file, what happens when you click on "Make MKV"??
     
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  5. Netmask

    Netmask Well-Known Member

    Me too, I’ve been using MakeMKV since it came out! I own a licence. Only ever made MKV files. You can backup a BD disc but menus and extras don’t hold any interest for me. I like to cut to the chase and watch the movie without any of the “cinema experience” before hand.
     
  6. khollister

    khollister Member

    Not the OP obviously, but when you initially load a disc in MakeMKV, there is a backup option that creates the BDMV folder. Once you click on the drive image to decrypt and read the playlists, that option is grayed out and you are in "MKV mode". If you do select backup, there is a dialog with an option to decrypt the AV files in the BDMV folder or to simply make an encrypted backup of the disc "as is".

    I get the "it should work as advertised" thing, but Zidoo is hardly the first or last technology company to offer a software based product where something is buggy. Even if your collection is all BDMV folders, MakeMKV can read those folders to create individual MKV's without having to grind through the original optical disc (much faster).

    I realize there is a non-trivial amount of work involved in converting and labeling the MKV's for a sizable collection, but when I got the Z9X last year, I reripped my entire blu-ray collection (several hundred discs that I had previously run through Handbrake to further compress originally) as well as started ripping my 4K UHD collection from scratch (about 350 discs as of today). It wasn't that bad (I had 2 Pioneers and 1 LG drive going). If you want the picture quality of the Zidoo and the options in HT that other devices don't offer, I figure you just have to suck it up and use a media format the device can utilize and quit stressing over stuff that is likely never going to change.

    If BDMV/ISO playback is the hill you want to die on, just get a Dune box and live with the other compromises on that platform.
     
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  7. Markus2121

    Markus2121 Member

    Yes, u look like u have a lot of time on your hand and money to spend too. No thanks, I don't want to re-rip mkvs cause zidoo can't perform a basic function, and no I don't have the money to get a Dune. These are non-solutions we can already think of anyways, we don't need to be told the obvious such as "get a player for every function".

    We also know everything is buggy. All software is. Chrome is buggy. IE is buggy. It's a question of how buggy. Zidoo is way too buggy with playing menus. As far as Menu playback goes it should not have mentioned or it should have been released as an alpha-release feature, not even ready for beta. Yet somehow it's considered part of the stable firmware of zidoo. Thanks but no thanks.
     
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  8. Markus2121

    Markus2121 Member

    So the previous updates were not released during COVID? supply chines were not disrupted at those times? It doesn't matter what you say, because people are now skeptical of zidoo, so then you can sit and celebrate zidoo's achievements and non-achievements with your few remaining buddies in this forum.
     
  9. Petga

    Petga Member

    It is nice for you that you do not need BD menus.
    There are so many functions that are important to other users but do not interest me.
    But that's why I don't dismiss these wishes of other users or write here in the forum that these functions don't interest me.
    Why should I do that?
    Exactly this lecturing behaviour of some users is the reason why I give most forums a wide berth.
    I thought it would be better in this forum, but unfortunately there are some sheriffs here who think they have to judge the wishes of others. What a pity!
    I also wonder why you find it so difficult to accept that a user expects a function advertised by the manufacturer to work.
    Such "comments" are wonderful for Zidoo.
    As soon as a user writes that something doesn't work properly, some users immediately come on the scene and loudly announce how unimportant this function is.
    Zidoo can feel vindicated and continue to neglect this function.
     
  10. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Zidoo Beta Tester Eversolo Beta Tester

    @Petga
    Yes we all use media players in a different way. But don't worry Zidoo is extremely aware of that and tries to balance and judge feature requests. Faults simply should be fixed and for cosmetic faults it is less urgent but still a goal.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2023
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  11. khollister

    khollister Member

    The point of my post was to offer an alternative way to use the box that ultimately gets to the same end (access to alternate cuts and special features) that avoids an apparently long-standing issue. This appears to have been an issue for some time across multiple versions, so continuing to get frustrated and angry rather than adapting to the Zidoo way of doing things or moving to another platform that better aligns to one's priorities seems counter-productive IMHO. I'm trying to be realistic rather than "right".

    I guess the moral of the story is "no good deed goes unpunished"
     
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  12. leonkoum

    leonkoum Active Member Zidoo Beta Tester

    On line trailers is not working for me any more…..:(
     
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  13. blenky

    blenky Well-Known Member

    Another good site is https://www.davestrailerpage.co.uk/ (in .mov format). Its been running since 2001 and still going strong.
     
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  14. 3DBuff

    3DBuff Well-Known Member

    We all only cry about it :(:(:(
     
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  15. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    Cool - wasn't aware of that one..
     
  16. darky_zidoo

    darky_zidoo Active Member Eversolo Beta Tester

    Tinymediamanager uses it also. Never heard of it before.
     
  17. Petga

    Petga Member

    It is true that everyone has different wishes.
    I just can't stand it when users think they can pass judgement on the wishes of other users here in the forum or disqualify these wishes.
    Here in this thread, the playing of trailers was recently a topic.
    Personally, I am not interested in this topic at all.
    Nevertheless, it is not my place to judge these wishes here and therefore I do not do so.
    As far as the playability of the BD menus is concerned, I don't have the impression that Zidoo takes customer requests seriously.
    For over 2 years users have complained that the BD menus don't work properly and so far I haven't seen Zidoo working on this in any update (please correct me if I missed something in the release notes).
    I can explain exactly why this issue is bothering me so much.
    We had 2 media players in the family from another manufacturer where the BD menus worked wonderfully bar.
    When the devices with the new chip RTD 1619DR appeared, we decided to upgrade.
    Two Mefia players came into question: a player from the brand in question (you will know which one I mean), where we knew that the menus worked, for about 1,500 euros, and the UHD3000 from Zidoo for about 1,000 euros.
    Zidoo had also advertised the BD menu function and we relied on this and bought 2 x UHD3000.
    So this function was a very important criterion for the purchase.
    We would never have thought that after 2 years Zidoo had not yet done anything to make this function work.
    I want to be honest: if Zidoo does not solve this problem with the next 2 updates, both UHD3000 will be sold at a loss and the Zidoo chapter will be over for us.
    Then the aforementioned competitor company can be happy about another 2 sold media players.
    At least they are doing something for their customers, unlike Zidoo.
     
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  18. Nice Monkey

    Nice Monkey Well-Known Member Zidoo Beta Tester Eversolo Beta Tester

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  19. leviathan

    leviathan New Member

    Petga
    Maybe it's just that Zidoo does not have enough qualifications for software developers. Because the same Dune has better compatibility with the disc menu. The same is not a hundred percent of cases, but still better. If so, then until the programmers are replaced by someone better, it will continue to be so. Boxes, processors, android versions will change, there will be assurances that this box is the best, but in reality ....
     
  20. Temearoo

    Temearoo Active Member

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