Hello, searching long time but never found an helping thread for my problem. I am very satisfied with the DMP-A6 but I am having nerving problem with the remote app. Doesn't matter if I use my Samsung S24FE or the Samsung Tab S9 FE, the App jerks and reacts very slowly. A lot of times the app reacts just after many seconds after scrolling or whatever else I am trying to choose.I'm already totally desperate and think about to buy another streamer. Maybe I can change something in the developer options of the phone/tablet which will solve the problem ? Somebody else with similar problems who could solve it ? Happy for every help from you. Thx
I'd rather look into your wireless network stability / signal strength... as there are not so many complaints of this type, I'm keen to presume the problem is in your environment, and not in the device(s)... Are you (well, your router) on 2.4GHz...? Try to switch to 5GHz, as it is less "crowded". IF, OTOH, you are wired, then I have no clue... maybe not-so-powerful-to-handle-graphic-streaming tablet/phone (the CAST function just mirrors the device's screen, and in order to do so, it must send it on the LAN, maybe slower framerates, but still, as a kind of slo-mo movie... just to shed some light on what the problem might be related to) HTH
Thank you Nutul for quick response. I also had the idea half an hour ago that this is a router problem because I recognized that the display on the DMP-A6 shows the changes but the tablet was still hanging. I checked now your suggestion and recognized that the router works just with 2.4GHz. Are you sure this will solve the problem ? If yes I will replace the router.
Nobody is sure; less than that when it comes to wireless networking... ;-) Not needed (unless your router is from WWII) many routers offer the possibility to chose their broadcast channel(s), usually via their web-interface; check this before reaching out to buy a new one. Sometimes you could reach the same effect by chosing another channel (on the same bandwidth), say channel 11 instead of the (standard???) 6. Search on the internet how to do any of those changes I suggest, it will possibly bring you some useful information, among a lot of useless one. HTH
thank you Nutul. I am living in a sublet and my router is hardwired to the owners main router. Don't know how or if the mainrouter influencs my subrouter. But I will try it.
It is your "sub" router that creates the wireless LAN, so you have to configure IT. The main router just provides access to the internet, which is irrelevant to your problem.
I think there is still an underlying issue in the software. I bought an iPad as a "remote control". I use 5G wifi for the iPad, and the DMP-A6 is hard-wired with gbE. The apps with "native" GUIs (like Tidal, qobuz(sp?), RadioParadise) work fine because much less data is sent. When using "Cast", you are sending (apparently) all the uncompressed pixel data twice (A6 -> router, router -> ipad) and it's almost unusable. Especially the vu or histogram views! After a few seconds, so much buffering ... the lag between interaction & ipad update can be 5 seconds or never. A workaround is to suspend/sleep the ipad momentarily. What's strange is my iphone works much much better than the iPad. Fewer pixels? The iphone works great even when controlling it with my laptop's "iphone mirroring" app.
I use the the DMP-A6just at weekends so it took time to answer. I changed the channel as Nutul suggested but it did not help. Sarah, I checked it also and you are right. The apps itself don't make a problem. Just when using "Cast". I am just wandering that I can use the "Cast" in the beginning without a problem and the issue occures just after listening a while. I think the problem starts after the screen saver was activated. When I touch the screen of the tablet with showing Eversolo screen saver, the DMP-A6 display reacts directly but the tablet screen take long time or does not show at all the changed screen of the DMP-A6. In my opinion it is a software problem and has nothing to do with the WiFi or the tablet.
At this point it really looks like a poor design of the cast app. Basically a cast app is the worst thing you can use (it has to mirror a screen most of the times on a device with different sizes/aspect-ratio, requiring aliasing and the like...). If the "data" is not properly used gets stuck in the buffer(s) - of course there are buffers... and if a weird situation comes to existence - the screen-saver kicks in - something like the following may happen (yes, I am a software engineer, and these things engage my spider-senses...): 1. the Eversolo stops casting the screen, as sereen-saver == stop all the visual thingy (and a poor design would also stop casting it) 2. the app on the phone/tablet/whatever upon detecting (well, actually not detecting) any data incoming for a while, could decide the connection has been interrupted (whatever the reason is, again, poor design) and the router - your LAN router - closes the IP-port <=> IP-port stream. 3. upon being woken-up, the Eversolo, (again, poor-design) starts again streaming the screen to the app, but the data goes nowhere... (it's UDP packets, to make things faster, but UDP also means: packets-may-be-lost-and-nobody-should-give-a-f***, so... I don't know if I have explained myself well, nor I want to calm the waters... I am just trying to explain how things (might) work. As I said, a cat app is the easiest way to do an app that works on every platform / device (RDP sofwatre protocols are in the "free" domain) but not necessarily the best... Sarah may agree, but I would be interested in her (sorry if I make assumptions, in my brains, and experience so far, Sarah is a female name) point of view. Just my 2c in sweetening the bitter pill...
@RoSch It's an interesting problem and worthy of discussion. Thanks for raising the topic. I agree with @Nutul , there can be a whole lot of potential problems so it's best to try to eliminate them one by one. 1). Let's first determine if it is an available memory issue on your tablet. Do the other apps work quickly and responsively? If so, then it's probably not an available memory issue on the devices(s). I found one of my devices didn't work well with my DMP-A6 and there were two issues - 1. using an older version of the app and 2. the available free memory on the device was low. Fixed it by updating the eversolo application and deleting old apps I was no longer using. 2). Next is to try to determine if it's a wireless networking issue. Download and install "Wifi Analyser". It's available free from the Google Play store and install it on one of your Android based tablets. It can tell you about signal strength, operating band (2.4 or 5GHz), operating channel, wifi encryption protocols and the MAC addresses of connected devices. This is helpful in identifying wi-fi related issues like adjacent channel interference and propagation (signal strength related) issues. The 2.4GHz band has a very limited number of available channels and in urban areas it can become quite crowded with adjacent channel interference being a common cause of poor wi-fi performance. Consider using a free channel on the 5GHz band if your router and tablet support it. 3). Run a speed test on your tablet. Whilst this won't measure the actual data speed between your DMP-A6 and your tablet it will give you an idea of at least the minimum speed your tablet is communicating with the network at any one time. Simply do a Google search for speed test and run it from the browser on your tablet. It's best to perform this test to a server hosted by your ISP so the result is not influenced by other internet bottlenecks outside and beyond your ASP's server. Any result better than 10Mbps should pose no problems as your wi-fi connection will more than likely be faster. 4). Access your router's GUI (user interface) and check the wi-fi is actually set to full power. Some routers allow you to throttle back the RF power to limit the range of the wi-fi coverage. 5). Your tablet running the eversolo remote app and your DMP-A6 must be on the same LAN and share the same IP address range. e.g. the DMP-A6 has say an IP address of 10.0.0.16 and the tablet running the eversolo app be in the same IP range with e.g. an IP address of say 10.0.0.5. They obviously can't share the same last digit but the two must have the same first three digits in common. So, in my example that would be 10.0.0 On your router that first three numbers might very well be different as it totally depends on the DHCP pool of the router in use, however whatever they are the DMP-A6 and the tablet running the eversolo app must be in the same IP range and on the same router. 6) Lastly, if you are running some form of internet security / firewall application (e.g. Nortons) on your tablet this might be causing delays with the packets of data getting exchanged between your DMP-A6 and your tablet running the eversolo remote app. Try temporarily disabling it to see if it solves the problem.
Maybe it doesn’t like android? Both my iPhone and iPad work pretty much flawlessly. There is no jitter, lag, delays, etc. I am very impressed with it over all with the exception of the casting feature. It tends to lock up after the device screen turns off. When I wake the device I have to back out of cast and activate it again if I want to. Fortunately I don’t see the need to use cast often.
The behaviour of my system is also as described by @RTStream. My Eversolo DMP-A6 is a wired connection to the router and then wireless to my iPhone/iPad.
The "cast" feature does seem to have similar "keeping up" problems on my iPad, a mini ver 5. Given that a more demanding 2-hop method ( macos iphone mirror app, iphone running the eversolo app) works flawlessly, I think the problem is the iPad. Looking at bandwidth on my laptop running this indirect way, I see about 160 KByte/sec ( 1.25 Mb/s ) A small fraction of a 250 Mb/s (ipad testing) or 800 Mb/s (laptop wifi testing) bandwidth available. A poor implementation of something on the ipad, (graphics or network) is making it slow, buffer saturated and buggy. I can make it work by limiting my time in 'cast', and sleeping the iPad after I've done whatever I wanted to do. PS - I am a retired (and yes, female) software engineer, just trying to listen to music
Maybe, @Nutul I'd be happy to add version #s Maybe someone will actually look at the issue. Current version of the ES app is 1.1.61 and DMP-A6 firmware v 1.4.02 iPad OS is current for now, iOS 18.3.2 PS. I can reliably crash the iPad EverSolo app to desktop by doing this, after a fresh ipad reboot: Start Landscape mode Eversolo app Start a streamer playing ( I use RadioParadise ) From "cast", watch a pretty histogram for a few seconds Try to expand cast display to full screen Back to desktop. Maybe a clue?
Agreed, but not all memory issues are memory exhaustion. When the app is started there are 40 GB free, so it would take a while. And It could be completely unrelated to the apparent "buffering" lag issue. I think it would work well, if only the Cast frame rate could be reduced.
It can be reduced, but that needs to be taken care of in ad-hoc implementations of the RDP protocol... here the biggest problem, IMO, is that there is a decent screen animation that is cast to the control device's screen; totally useless from a technical point of view... maybe a clever option for slow devices / LANs: exclude animations...? P.S. What does a retired software engineer do... does (s)he still code, maybe just for fun's sake...? I am close to retirement, and I know I'll never stop writing code... just waiting for confirmation here... hahaha. Have a great day Sarah.
The animations on most screens are trivial (the playing "fire", progress bar & text/graphic decorations. I don't know why the iPad is bad at this - but even with entirely adequate network bandwidth it can't keep up. What does a retired coder do? (Points to this thread ^^ ) I don't expect to do any coding right now, but if an open source project or consult popped up related to something I care about I'd consider it. Too many other things to do besides type these days.
