X1 II Initial user test

Discussion in 'ZIDOO X1 II' started by jambam, Apr 1, 2016.

  1. jambam

    jambam Member

    I received my X1 II yesterday . And here are my initial impressions .

    1. I tried ZDMC and loaded some add ons ... ok so far no issues
    2. Playback on ZDMC had no lip sync issues .
    3. Installed you tube , while max resolution seen was 720P . Playback was smooth and very good with my limited test.

    4. Tried playback with files coming from a shared PC folder using SMB , access via Kodi and ES explorer was not a problem , however using Media Center , I cannot access the shared files , same problem with the X6.

    5. Tried audio passthrough with DTS and Dolby , ... Passed

    6. HD audio passthrough .. Dolby tru DTS ... failed
    HD DTS 7.1 .. failed , intermittent drop outs

    7. City temperature wrong display, setting is C but F is shown
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2016
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  2. Gianluca Rigon

    Gianluca Rigon New Member

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    Thanks. Do you connecting the PC through WiFi or Ethernet wired ?
    P.S. You are a lucky winner of the X1 II giveaway ?
     
  3. jambam

    jambam Member

    I was using a wired connection. I have less issues with the x1 II s at initial release versus my x6 where I started with v1.30 firmware. I plan to try out wireless and report back .

    Yes I was lucky to get the prize .. Thank you Zidoo

    i find the PQ of the X6 is superior and has a more responsive GUI.
     
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  4. Gianluca Rigon

    Gianluca Rigon New Member

    Thanks for your feedback ! Me too I'm a winner of the giveaway but I didn't receive yet the prize......
    Anyway I already own a Zidoo X1, connected through the WiFi to my NAS Synology and it works not too bad.....
     
  5. jambam

    jambam Member

    Hope you get your prize soon and we could compare notes. Another thing that didn't work for me was CEC control , it would not work with my Pioneer Kuro TV. I could not find a on/off switch either and maybe Zidoo mods could point the way..
     
  6. Jon7sky

    Jon7sky New Member

    I can't get mine to work with my Logitech K400 wireless keyboard. The enter key doesn't work right. The keyboard works with every other Android box I own.
     
  7. jambam

    jambam Member

    Hi i am using another wireless keyboard measy gp800. actually typing the reponse with it. the enter key on mine works. and should be geenericc with any keyboard. Can you try connectinng a usb extender to the logitech dongle. I find it makes the response a lot better.?
    Just got an update with weather app and corrects the F to C temperature issues.
     
  8. jamil

    jamil Member Zidoo TECH Supporter

    hi, jambam
    HD DTS 7.1 .. failed , intermittent drop outs----Do you use KODI or Local Players?
    1.kodi you can reference----> http://www.zidoo.tv/Support/guide/id/2/p/1.html
    2.If you use Local Players,You can provide HD DTS 7.1 video?
    thanks.
     
  9. jamil

    jamil Member Zidoo TECH Supporter

    hi, jambam
    CEC feature is turned on by default,do you open the TV CEC on/off switch?
    or you other box is fine.
     
  10. jamil

    jamil Member Zidoo TECH Supporter

    hi, Jon7sky,
    Logitech K400 wireless keyboard "Enter" key doesn't work right on Any user interface?or some app?
    and the X6 box is fine?
    thanks.
     
  11. jambam

    jambam Member

    Hi Jamil,

    Thanks for the response , In Kodi using both a file shared thru NAS and via USB stick .. I was playing Blue Ray File of Star Wars Episode 7 and other MKV movies
     
  12. jambam

    jambam Member

    The TV CEC switch is on , it works with my Raspberry Pi , but not with Xidoo X1 II , also when I tried the X6 , there is an error displayed in my Pioneer Kuro TV when I first turn on the X6 .. I will try with different TV set if it works
     
  13. jambam

    jambam Member

    Jamil , can you also check 10 bit H264 file playback , I get very bad video artifact during playback of 10bit H264
     
  14. jamil

    jamil Member Zidoo TECH Supporter

    概要
    Complete name : E:\Share\video\4K\暗流涌动-4K.mp4
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID : mp42
    File size : 1.84 GiB
    Duration : 2分 9秒
    Overall bit rate mode : VBR
    Overall bit rate : 122 Mbps
    Encoded date : UTC 2015-01-05 05:07:02
    Tagged date : UTC 2015-01-05 05:07:02
    Writing application : TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 6 Trial with Movie Plug-in Version. 6.0.1.9

    视频
    ID : 2
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High 10@L5.1
    Format settings, CABAC : 是
    Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 2分 9秒
    Bit rate mode : VBR
    Bit rate : 119 Mbps
    Maximum bit rate : 160 Mbps
    Width : 3 840像素
    Height : 2 160像素
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : 恒定
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Standard : Component
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 10位
    Scan type : 逐行扫描
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.600
    Stream size : 1.80 GiB (98%)
    Writing library : x264 core 142
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=1 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / minigop=0 / stitchable=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=160000 / vbv_bufsize=160000 / crf_max=51.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Encoded date : UTC 2015-01-05 05:07:02
    Tagged date : UTC 2015-01-05 05:07:02
    Color range : Limited
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709

    音频
    ID : 1
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : Main
    Codec ID : 40
    Duration : 2分 9秒
    Bit rate mode : CBR
    Bit rate : 2 875 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6声道
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz
    Compression mode : 有损压缩
    Stream size : 44.4 MiB (2%)
    Encoded date : UTC 2015-01-05 05:07:02
    Tagged date : UTC 2015-01-05 05:07:02


    I have check it ,and it is fine,display is 3840x2160p-30.
    how about "Overall bit rate" your video?or can you provide your video?
    thanks.
     
  15. jambam

    jambam Member

    General
    ID : 0 (0x0)
    Complete name : D:\Star Wars Episode VII - The Force Awakens 2015 1080p Blu-ray AVC DTS-HD MA 7.1\BDMV\STREAM\00153.m2ts
    Format : BDAV
    Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
    File size : 37.0 GiB
    Duration : 2h 15mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 39.0 Mbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

    Video
    ID : 4113 (0x1011)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
    Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=12
    Codec ID : 27
    Duration : 2h 15mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Maximum bit rate : 34.0 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive

    Audio #1
    ID : 4352 (0x1100)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Format profile : MA / Core
    Mode : 16
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : Stream extension
    Codec ID : 134
    Duration : 2h 15mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant
    Bit rate : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 8 channels / 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
    Bit depth : 24 bits
    Compression mode : Lossless / Lossy

    Audio #2
    ID : 4353 (0x1101)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Format profile : Dolby Digital
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Codec ID : 129
    Duration : 2h 15mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 320 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 311 MiB (1%)

    Audio #3
    ID : 4354 (0x1102)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Codec ID : 129
    Duration : 2h 15mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 640 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 622 MiB (2%)

    Audio #4
    ID : 4355 (0x1103)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AC-3
    Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Codec ID : 129
    Duration : 2h 15mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 640 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 31.250 fps (1536 spf)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 622 MiB (2%)


    Using Audio# 1 DTS-MA .. I have consistent audio dropouts using local player and Kodi in Passthrough mode .. Using audio 2,3,4 is no problem (NO dropouts) in passthrough
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2016
  16. jamil

    jamil Member Zidoo TECH Supporter

    概要
    Unique ID : 198092504572609506337300067485651408056 (0x95073A879826912D9E9E35EB96C994B8)
    Complete name : E:\Share\Star.Wars.Episode.VII.The.Force.Awakens.2015.1080p.BluRay.x264.DTS-HD.MA.7.1-HDChina.mkv
    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 2
    File size : 19.0 GiB
    Duration : 2小时 18分
    Overall bit rate mode : VBR
    Overall bit rate : 19.7 Mbps
    Movie name : Medusa @ HDChina
    Encoded date : UTC 2016-03-23 13:35:13
    Writing application : mkvmerge v5.8.0 ('No Sleep / Pillow') built on Sep 2 2012 15:37:04
    Writing library : libebml v1.2.3 + libmatroska v1.3.0

    视频
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : 是
    Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
    Muxing mode : Header stripping
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 2小时 18分
    Nominal bit rate : 14.5 Mbps
    Width : 1 920像素
    Height : 800像素
    Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
    Frame rate mode : 恒定
    Frame rate : 23.976 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8位
    Scan type : 逐行扫描
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.394
    Writing library : x264 core 148 r2665kMod a01e339
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=11 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=0.85:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=48 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=24 / lookahead_threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=14500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.20 / pb_ratio=1.20 / aq=3:0.80
    Language : English
    Default : 是
    Forced : 否

    音频
    ID : 2
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Format profile : MA / Core
    Mode : 16
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Muxing mode : Header stripping
    Codec ID : A_DTS
    Duration : 2小时 18分
    Bit rate mode : VBR
    Bit rate : 不详 / 1 509 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 8声道 / 6声道
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth : 24位
    Compression mode : 无损 / Lossy
    Language : English
    Default : 是
    Forced : 否

    文本
    ID : 3
    Format : PGS
    Muxing mode : zlib
    Codec ID : S_HDMV/PGS
    Codec ID/Info : Picture based subtitle format used on BDs/HD-DVDs
    Language : English
    Default : 是
    Forced : 否


    KODI settings
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    upload_2016-4-6_10-55-9.png
    upload_2016-4-6_10-59-24.png

    my Amplifier is DENON AVR-X1100W
     
  17. jambam

    jambam Member

    Hi,

    My Kodi settings is the same , I also get the same info on my Pre Pro ( Emotiva XMC-1) , but the problem is every few seconds ( 8 to 10) sound drops out , or sound will cut off then return . Both using Kodi and local player. but kodi has a lot more dropout while local player only every 10 seconds.

    Here are recorded samples

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d23b7d6a4qq9o1v/AAABSzWZtqpOkUUgIY7X6144a?dl=0


    These was recorded with my mobile phone ... Playback is using Kodi ....

    If I use local player there is less frequent dropouts but still the same problem
     
  18. jambam

    jambam Member

    X1 II Firmware is 1.05
    ZDMC is 16.0 Git 2016-03-02-04de8ec


    I also shared in my drop box a 10 bit video example played in Kodi ... In the local player it would not play , it actually make my X1 II reboot after I try playing it in the local player

    here is the media info

    Format : Matroska
    Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
    File size : 8.97 GiB
    Duration : 1h 34mn
    Overall bit rate : 13.6 Mbps
    Movie name : Inside.Out.2015.1080p.BluRay.DTS.x264-NTb
    Encoded date : UTC 2015-10-26 09:00:39
    Writing application : mkvmerge v8.5.1 ('Where you lead I will follow') 64bit
    Writing library : libebml v1.3.3 + libmatroska v1.4.4

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High 10@L5.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 16 frames
    Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
    Duration : 1h 34mn
    Bit rate : 12.0 Mbps
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 10 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.241
    Stream size : 7.91 GiB (88%)
    Writing library : x264 core 148 r2638+53 bb29004 t_mod_Custom [10-bit@all X86_64]
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=16 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / fade_compensate=0.00 / psy_rd=0.85:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=4 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / fgo=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=150 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=16.4000 / qcomp=0.65 / qpmin=0:0:0 / qpmax=81:81:81 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=62500 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=3:0.90 / aq-sensitivity=10.00 / aq-factor=1.00:1.00:1.00 / aq2=0 / aq3=0 / zones=0,1086,crf=13.3/1765,4320,crf=14.5/7182,7329,crf=14.5/8283,8347,crf=14.5/8396,8506,crf=14.5/8655,8704,crf=14.5/8873,8931,crf=14.5/9080,9099,crf=14.5/9226,9298,crf=14.5/9328,9623,crf=14.5/10375,10613,crf=14.5/10778,11139,crf=14.5/15462,15593,crf=14.5/18890,19232,crf=13.3/20559,20643,crf=14.5/20770,21056,crf=14.5/21926,22690,crf=13.3/25327,25400,crf=14.5/26104,26190,crf=13.3/26313,26372,crf=13.3/27735,28824,crf=13.3/29144,29813,crf=14.5/35251,35489,crf=14.5/37335,37389,crf=14.5/38432,38530,crf=14.5/43401,43489,crf=14.5/44110,44236,crf=14.5/44937,45593,crf=14.5/51952,52018,crf=14.5/52931,53108,crf=13.3/53681,54012,crf=13.3/55980,56148,crf=13.3/58183,58283,crf=13.3/59412,59636,crf=14.5/60301,60343,crf=13.3/62287,63153,crf=13.3/63768,64230,crf=14.5/64581,64628,crf=14.5/67549,67622,crf=14.5/71232,71507,crf=14.5/76901,76929,crf=14.5/77006,77016,crf=14.5/77059,77222,crf=14.5/79327,79489,crf=14.5/82428,82453,crf=13.3/88180,88258,crf=14.5/91155,91183,crf=14.5/91252,91383,crf=14.5/91571,91740,crf=14.5/92707,92969,crf=14.5/94560,95077,crf=13.3/99945,100193,crf=14.5/100706,100815,crf=14.5/102835,103203,crf=13.3/105345,105723,crf=14.5/111067,111515,crf=13.3/111788,112458,crf=13.3/112479,112504,crf=14.5/116344,116519,crf=14.5/120772,121272,crf=14.5/124199,135717,crf=17/135718,136132,crf=13.3
    Language : English
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No
    Color range : Limited
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709

    Audio #1
    ID : 2
    Format : DTS
    Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
    Mode : 16
    Format settings, Endianness : Big
    Codec ID : A_DTS
    Duration : 1h 34mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 6 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 93.750 fps (512 spf)
    Bit depth : 24 bits
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 1 021 MiB (11%)
    Language : English
    Default : Yes
    Forced : No

    Audio #2
    ID : 3
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : A_AAC
    Duration : 1h 34mn
    Bit rate : 93.5 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Frame rate : 46.875 fps (1024 spf)
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : 9ms
    Stream size : 63.3 MiB (1%)
    Title : Commentary with Director Pete Docter, Co-Director Ronnie Del Carmen and Producer Jonas Rivera
    Language : English
    Default : No
    Forced : No
     
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2016
  19. jambam

    jambam Member

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d23b7d6a4qq9o1v/AAABSzWZtqpOkUUgIY7X6144a?dl=0

    Just to document the different files I shared , taken by my mobile phone to explain the problems.

    1. DTS-HD is using the DTS-HD audio stream passthrough mode and you will notice the frequent dropout of the audio .

    2. Dolby Digital is using the AC3 stream ( Non-HD) , Audio is no problem

    3. 10 bit Video .. Pls note the artefacts on the video

    I also have checked movie with Dolby True HD signal in mkv format , also frequent dropouts ( Failed)
     
  20. jambam

    jambam Member


    I tried this time with LG TV set , CEC does not work the X1 II...

    But the LG works with the X6
     

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