v1.2.05, v1.2.05_G Beta version for Z9X 8K/Z30 PRO/Z3000 PRO/UHD8000

Discussion in 'HDD 8K Media player(AML S928X)' started by Markswift2003, Mar 13, 2025.

  1. enry184

    enry184 Active Member

    Very strange... I would not want there to be some sort of incompatibility in the whole chain between the zidoo, your AVR and the LG C2 TV, it would not be the first time. Is the HDMI output on the zidoo set to auto or raw? Another test you can do is disconnect the HDMI cable that goes from the amplifier to the TV. Basically, do not let the TV communicate with the Sony AVR and see what happens.
    Another test you can do is to connect the zidoo directly to the tv and use the tv's eARC to carry the audio to the avr.
     
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  2. Techlology

    Techlology Member

    Sounds like it could potentially be an HDMI bandwidth "issue"?
     
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  3. futuro

    futuro Member

    I also want to watch this episode in DV but I just can't because I don't have another device where I can play it.
    There are no more words for such frustration, I can't even get upset anymore.
     
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  4. cucnz

    cucnz Well-Known Member

    Denon isnt showing audio frequency on INFO or via the app (for music videos ...it does for audio only files )
    Zidoos outputting the music vids at whichever "style" i choose ,ie DTS HD MA 2 or 5.1 or atmos for all the music vids ive tested
     
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  5. cucnz

    cucnz Well-Known Member


    ill grab one of latest season and test since i have similar setup except Pana OLED rather than Sony (D 3700H compared to your 3800h )

    Tested 306 DV HDR version
    played to a couple minutes in about 10 times and couldnt get it to fail ( was one spot that had a slight fail in same spot everytime so ill say its source
    I even tried on some different settings ie my 24 hz ,then 23.997hz and then changed to Match framerate only (from my Off setting ) and still seemed fine to me

    (not a series i watch .. got to like 15 20 minutes in to pilot before i couldnt stand it anymore :p )
     
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  6. Unclejoshc

    Unclejoshc Active Member

    Ok I tried switching ports on the AVR, using a different HDMI cable, disconnecting the cable to the TV, and trying earc. Each change with power on off of each component to allow a fresh EDID check and I still get the same. See the below screen shots showing the video OSD with 192 and my AVR at 48khz in both Auto Format Decode and Direct Mode and the music player playing rip from same video.

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  7. Unclejoshc

    Unclejoshc Active Member

    Yeah mine plays the correct format for everything. Only the sample rate is affected for whatever reason.
     
  8. cucnz

    cucnz Well-Known Member

    Input shows Stereo 24-192 but you are Outputting MCH on the amp ,so is it the amp downsampling it to make it MCH
    ie can you change amp to Pure Direct /Direct so its playing the Stereo 24-192 your sending to it
     
  9. Unclejoshc

    Unclejoshc Active Member

    One of the screen shots shows Direct. Not sure where you are seeing MCH. Only 2 speakers are lit up.

    Maybe hard to tell in the shots. But only the front left and right plus the sub are lit and receiving signal.
     
  10. jt5298

    jt5298 Member

    Are you using VS10 engine for DV? I have a similar setup Z9X 8K to LG C1. I switched to VS10 engine for a DV movie just to try it out and I got the stutter. When I switched it back to auto the stutter is gone on DV movies.

    Edit: sorry I'm not in front of my TV now. I think the setting is Dolby vs10 for DV content I changed it from yes back to no.
     
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  11. cucnz

    cucnz Well-Known Member

    2nd and 4th pics
    I was going by the Speaker pattern showing 5.1.2 ,since yeah hard to tell which lights are on or off
     
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  12. Aleksandr

    Aleksandr New Member

    Problems in mkv files, in m2ts this does not happen
     
  13. Unclejoshc

    Unclejoshc Active Member

    Yeah it was easier to tell in the uncompressed pics but the full pattern show all available speakers regardless but only the ones being used are lit up. Sorry for confusion.

    A new AVR is not in the budget so I guess I have to live with it. It just doesn't make sense to me so it bugs.
     
  14. peteru

    peteru Well-Known Member

    I decided to take a look. The update APKs contains the player classes, so it is feasible that the behaviour of the video player may have been updated. It is equally possible that these classes are only bundled as a dependency and nothing has changed between releases. I don't have the time to analyse it in that level of detail.
     
  15. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    I also have the same problem... and it seems to become worse day by day... I really don't understand what's going on, but now I have stutter most of the time with DV in any profile (7, 8, 5)... sometimes it's starts OK, but as soon as I pause for some reason and then play again, stutters starts and there's no way to get rid of it. Tried really any setting combination (TV LED, TV LED passthrough - I have a 2024 OLED TV -, VS10 on DV, 444 10 bit, 422 12 bit, frame-rate match, frame-rate fixed to 24fps), but nothing seems to workout. What I notice now (and I don't recall doing it before, but not 100% sure) is a quick blu screen (frames) coming up each time I stop a DV playback.
    I was so frustrated (I know @Markswift2003 what's your opinion :p, but I have no better definition!) I plugged back my old Z9X and... no problem!! (although overall PQ is not as good :( )... I keep my finger crossed for a quick release of a FW update fixing the issues, because at the moment I'm giving up using my Z9X 8K...
     
  16. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Have you tried LLDV?

    I have an 8000 in the cinema and quite honestly I've never seen a single frame of stutter in there. I use LLDV full time.

    However, I have seen stutter my test Z9X 8K - it's easily replicable in TV Led but I've also seen it in LLDV. However, so far I've only seen it in Profile 7 - I don't know if this is a coincidence, but all the DV content I use in the cinema is Profile 8 (I encode Profile 7 to Profile 8 using Staxrip and doviTool).
     
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  17. giangi76

    giangi76 Active Member

    Hi Mark! No, I honestly didn't try LLDV... I'll try this evening and keep you posted.
    Why do you change profile 7 to 8?
    Cheers from Rome! :)
     
  18. rockmeloman

    rockmeloman Active Member

    Sorry, Mark. You convinced me that profile 8 is "wrong" and "problematic". That you need to stick to profile 7 to avoid problems (and profile 5 for WEB-DL)
     
  19. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    I got into the habit of encoding a few of years ag0 - I found that I can encode using Staxrip and NVEnc in hardware using the GPU of an NVidia graphics card without any perceptible loss in quality - so I can get say an 80GB rip down to 30-40GB with no loss in quality.

    Trouble is, if you use an encode Profile 7 with a FEL layer (doesn't matter with MEL) then the Dolby process is shot to hell, and since these boxes only use the base layer anyway (and the new boxes convert to Profile 8 on the fly) I decided I might as well convert to Profile 8 so I can encode my Dolby content as well.

    Fantastico - vengo a Roma a maggio per quattro giorni ;)
     
  20. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Sorry - I would have made no such claims!

    What I said was that people creating so called hybrids was problematic - that has nothing to do with Profile 8 as a format, it's just that Profile 8 is used by necessity to create hybrids.
     
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