Recommended Settings and other useful stuff for RTD1619 Players (VS10 SDR PDF added)

Discussion in 'HDD Media player(RTD 1619DR)' started by Markswift2003, Oct 21, 2020.

  1. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    This is Alita hdr/dv
    It plays in vs10dv
    AF3D9C0A-FC46-487F-AA7B-921EF6A14534.jpeg
     
  2. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    Some files with different codec are playîng in hdr
    I think it comes from the info wich is different
     
  3. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Until I see an EDID, I can't tell you what's supposed to happen.
     
  4. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    84A0E2A2-9EFC-481D-BD5C-90D2479D7446.jpeg I can’t had my bin file
     
  5. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    Sorry i have to go to work

    if you can explain me the way to put BIN file, i would appreciate .

    thanks

    best regards
     
  6. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

  7. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    Sorry i didn’t see that i had to change in .text

    i do it saturday.
     
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  8. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    here it is ;

    thanks again

    fred
     

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  9. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Ok Fred - I had a look at your EDID. I'm a bit surprised it's an HDMI 1.4 EDID, I assume this is due to the Radiance.

    Not a huge problem, but it does mean you're restricted to 300MHz, so for 4K50~60 that means 8-bit only which will be problematic for 10-bit content.

    That aside, here's what should happen for DV content with current NEO S firmware v6.4.20 (I'm ignoring Profiles 4 and 9 since they are not used commercially):

    1. Profile 5 DV does not have a compatibility layer and so must be converted to HDR10 using VS10

    2. Profile 7 DV has an HDR10(+) compatibility layer which should be played - no VS10

    3. Profile 8 DV can have an HDR10(+), an HLG or an SDR compatibility layer which should be played - no VS10


    Here's what actually happens:

    1. Profile 5 DV behaves correctly and VS10 is used to convert to HDR10

    2. Profile 7 DV behaves correctly and the HDR10(+) base layer is played - no VS10

    3. Profile 8 DV behaves incorrectly and the Dolby Vision signal is converted to HDR10 using VS10


    So your problem files must be Profile 8


    This conversion of Profile 8 to HDR10 has been fixed in the latest firmware v6.4.28 for MKV so only the base layer is played correctly, however it has introduced a couple of other issues where Profile 5 is not converted correctly and Profile 8 MP4 is still converted using VS10.

    I've raised this with the devs and I'd hope they get it working correctly for all Profiles...
     
  10. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    Thank you Mark for your time.

    my LRP is a full 9gbs, before that it was not a problem.
    The movies 24p worked fine in 4K/hdr.
    The only limitation is as you said on 4K 60p, but as there very few content,it doesn’t bored me .
    I ask the price for 1 hdmi input 18gbs.

    Do you recommend me to make The last firmware ?

    i also tried to reencoded the files who are problematic, but i didn’t have The time yet to try it, and I don’t see me do this for all DV/hdr file .

    Thanks again.
     
  11. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Ah - that explains why it's restricted to 300MHz :)

    The latest firmware for the Neo S v6.4.20 is fine to update to.

    I would avoid the latest v6.4.28 if it gets released for the NEO S until the Profile 5 issue is fixed.

    As I say, v6.4.28 fixes Profile 8 MKV (not MP4) but breaks Profile 5 which is more important.

    Hopefully this will be fixed quickly.
     
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  12. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    Great thanks.
    Î ´m already in 6,4,20

    I will change my 9gbs input, to see if my problem is still there.
    Direct to a JVC vs10 doesn’t produce problem.
    Played by my Apple TV in the LRP doesn’t produce problem eather.

    Maybe it is my 9gbs….
     
  13. TifKag

    TifKag Active Member

    Does this concern all models, when 6.4.28 becomes available for them.
     
  14. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Yes, but to be clear it only affects Profile 5 on non-DV displays.

    I'm told it's a regression issue related to getting Profile 8 to correctly play the base layer on non-DV displays.

    I'm sure it'll be fixed before new firmware for the other players gets released.
     
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  15. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    The 9gbps board isn't the problem.

    From what you've said, the issue is that DV Profile 8 video only uses VS10 with HDR set to auto.

    Unfortunately, at the moment this is unavoidable - I think it's to do with the fact that Profile 8 can have either an HDR, an HLG or and SDR base layer.

    Instead of using the HDR10 base layer as it is, VS10 processes it with the RPU but it still outputs HDR10. It does not output Dolby Vision.
     
  16. Boris 1956

    Boris 1956 New Member

    Zidoo Z1000 Pro zdmc-18.8_rtk
    when I install this on Zidoo to get KODI the regional url does not pass do I have to change the region on Zidoo 1000 pro
     
  17. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    Thanks for the answer Mark.

    How could you explain that this file plays well with JVC Framadapt, but are wachout with my LRP .

    I will certainly change for 18gbs, and maybe change my NEO S with an uhd2000, who doesn’t have this awfull VS10 .
     
  18. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Beta test group Contributor

    Wait for a while - VS10 has been updated so it is not used for Dolby Vision Profile 7 and Profile 8 for an HDR10 display with HDR in Auto - this firmware should be available for the NEO S soon...

    If an HDR file looks "washed out" that is usually because it is being viewed in SDR - ie Rec.709 colour and power gamma instead of BT.2020 colour and PQ gamma.
     
  19. Coco68

    Coco68 New Member

    Thanks for the explaination .
    Îll try to be patient.

    I love my NEO S, but i ´ m a bit desappointed to have to use my Apple for lots of news.
     
  20. dj1515

    dj1515 New Member

    dumb question mark, but what is edid?

    i am using an LG G2 oled.

    settings are:
    match frame rate only
    lock resolution at 4k 23
    hdr set to vs10 or auto (not sure which is better? i never see vs10 if set to auto).

    is this proper settings? i get s black screen for bit when starting and exiting videos, and sometimes “no signal” for a few seconds.

    should i post my edid or do you already know this tv’s capabilities? thanks!
     

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