New firmware v2.0.5 version(beta) for ZIDOO X9S release

We all contribute
But be nice if we had some official response once in a while from them .

But at least we get updates
Two steps forward one step back

 

Thanks OliverQC will forward that look .
Do you have the 2.0.13 X10 firmware ?

 

is this save to use this version?
coz i was bored and need the wallpaper feature even it just static image
maybe zidoo team need to look at popcornhour themes, they have weather poster for the wallpaper

 

People have used but its not an official beta release firmware .

 

Sorry, but whether or not you see it, you have it. Players are not selective. All z9s and x10 players have the same exact issues. It's not like some x9s players magically don't have the issues and some x9s players do. If you don't see the stutter, then you're lucky. But it's there. I argued tooth and nail about stutter issues with the old 1186 media players years ago on the AVS forum. Many insisted they had no stutter. I insisted it did. Finally somebody came forward with proof that the player dropped frames every x amount of seconds. The same thing applies here.

These x9s and x10 players do drop frames. It has been proven. If you don't notice it, then that's because your eyes are not sensitive enough to spot it. As it's been said many, many times - not everyone sees it. But it's happening.

You can post you don't see it. That's likely true. But you can't insist it's not happening, because it's been proven with this thing called math that it is happening.

 

Great, so it looks like we can now change the wallpaper . Now if we can:

- get DVDs to play in the right aspect ratio
- have multiple video files in a folder to play one after the other
- fix the frame dropping issues
- get the player to wait on playback until after the screen has switched frame rate and resolutions, so I don't miss the first 10 seconds of everything I watch
- explain why 12bit has less banding than 10bit, even though it's 10bit content so both outputs should look identical
- allow us to manually adjust aspect ratio on-the-fly like my Mede8er does, to manually force videos into the right aspect ratio that are encoded wrong or won't play correctly (not "fit" or "full", I mean adjustments - arrow keys adjust the aspect ratios in small increments (1%) to find the right aspect ratio manually.

 

Yes, that's good news,

thank you Zidoo

 

Which "good news" ?

 

‘No news, ‘good’ news..’

 

That we can change the Wallpaper on our home screens
The rest of the stuff dont really matter .
Mine works fine .

 

already test 2.0.13, the gui looks nice now
still hope improvement for HT2.0
and "get the player to wait on playback until after the screen has switched frame rate and resolutions, so I don't miss the first 10 seconds of everything I watch" liked ursiel said
coz its annoying for me too

 

You get a frame drop when the display refresh rate is less than the content frame rate. You will get a frame duplication when the display refresh rate is greater than the content frame rate.

For 23.976 fps content, the output refresh rate is greater than the frame rate for 2160p 10/12-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 modes. So, it is technically a frame duplication and not a frame drop. For other modes the output refresh rate is lower than the content frame rate and you can technically get a frame drop.

 

can you tell me what "Automatic Frame Switching" for?
it confuse me you said "For 23.976 fps content, the output refresh rate is greater than the frame rate for 2160p 10/12-bit YCbCr 4:4:4 modes"

sorry i`m not an expert, so i need explanation
coz what i know is, the display/tv for example my tv have 60Hz refresh rate, so my tv can take what ever content frame rate just like it is
but if my content frame rate is 23.976(24p), i can duplicate it with motion interpolate feature to increase the frame rate 60fps just like my tv native refresh rate
so it confused me for what you said about frame drop and duplication

all my collections have 1080p hevc 10bit 23.976fps , so what setting the best should i choose?

 

All I know is the frame drops/stutters I posted earlier happen at regular intervals. It appears like a stutter when watching movies. When watching the motions bars tests, it looks like the bars are "lurching ahead" a bit at the stutter. Like it stops for just an instant and then the bar is further ahead. Notice I reported it happening in 1080p and UHD with various color space modes selected, which is why I wondered if there was something wrong with my motion test bars pattern, But I also see stutter with movies.

I'm about to give up on my x10 player and send it back and just give up on Zidoo. Time is ticking away and I hear nothing that makes me feel confident that any of the issues I have mentioned will be addressed. I'm trying to remain patient but all I hear from Zidoo is silence.

 

Stutter can be due to frame drop or frame duplication. I was just explaining when a frame would be dropped and when it would be duplicated. If you are seeing stutter with the different 1080p modes, then it is very likely that you will see this with all Amlogic SoC based devices and even the nVIDIA Shield. None of them output perfect refresh rate.

 

I was referring to the issue that X9S/X10. In that particular mode, the refresh rate is not 23.976, but 23.982/23.988Hz.

Your TV can process the input signal in whatever way it can. It can display a 23.976 input signal with 3:2, 2:2, 5:5 pulldown etc. Because of what your TV does to the input signal, you may or may not notice the stutter that is being discussed here.

At this time, 1080p 12-bit YCbCr 4:2:2 has near perfect output (23.97608Hz).

 

Will Displays and proff monitors show this less or even 1080p 24fps monitors
As i find each screen is diff to others and they all have diff chipsets inside to manage the input to panels .

Plus Plasmas handle motion quite well compared to lcd .

 

on what 1080p? 24hz,25Hz,30hz,50Hz or 60hz?
regullary i just set 1080p 24hz 12bit YCbCr 4:4:4 and auto switch for frame rate only

yes luckly my eyes not that sensitive to catch the stutter, need to focus and special motion like running bar test
but in movie, maybe they have stutter but i cannot notice it
all i concern is about the playback with the auto switch frame rate at the first start, its very annoying

 

Every tv / monitor is different and set up is different and our eyes also .
The more Expensive your screen is or Newer / older even or type of screen ( Oled ) you may see less ?

Hence why many just dont see it
If you start using callibration Equipment and test samples you will end up spotting something .

It is a £99.00 mobile android device not a £650.00 Oppo .