Local scrapping with TMM's nfo

Discussion in 'General' started by Atari1971, Mar 21, 2025.

  1. Atari1971

    Atari1971 Member

    Hello. I just finished scraping my films with Tinymanager. Everything was recovered successfully in HT 5 using local scraping (nfo files). The only downside is that I don't have all the information on the actors and directors. Regarding the directors, nothing is displayed except the name. For the actors, I don't have access to all the details.

    I could rescrap with the HT 5 tools, but I don't have the courage to redo all the genres, modify the posters and logos (almost 1,800 films)...

    How can I recover all this information?
     
  2. Netmask

    Netmask Well-Known Member

    TMM normally makes a folder called .actors with all the images inside that folder. Maybe, I haven’t tried this, you could using the web editor insert those actor images ?
     
  3. Atari1971

    Atari1971 Member

    Actually, I have all the photos of the actors, but I don't have those of the directors, and no information (biography) of the directors and occasional actors.
     
  4. Netmask

    Netmask Well-Known Member

    Look up IMDB, TMDB, TVMaze
     
  5. Atari1971

    Atari1971 Member

    Yes, thank you, I know, but how do I get HT 5 to recognize the links to these sites in the NFO? The links are managed by TMM. Why doesn't HT 5 support them? Should I change lines in the NFO?
     
  6. Atari1971

    Atari1971 Member

    How can I extract the film genres (fantasy, comedy, etc.) from an nfo file created by TMM to reinject them into the HT5 database?
     
  7. Netmask

    Netmask Well-Known Member

    I’ve always simply used the web editor to insert missing information within the limitations of that app. As far as I know so far there is no way to get Zidoo to update from changes made in NFO files.
     
  8. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    Can’t remember what version it came in on, but HT has had the ability to update metadata from NFOs for quite a while now.
     
  9. Netmask

    Netmask Well-Known Member

    Is this on the new machines, doesn’t seem to work on my UHD3000. Gave up trying ages ago.
     
  10. Atari1971

    Atari1971 Member

    Yes, I do it too, but with over 1,800 films, it's quite tedious...
     
  11. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    It works on HT5 the 1619BPD boxes and of course the AML ones. Unfortunately not on HT4 on the 1619DR boxes.
     
  12. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    I don't use TMM, but if you scrape online with the box and then export NFOs, then actors and director have entries in the NFOs, so if I then clear the database and scrape with the NFO only, it picks up the cast details including images. Further details are pulled from the internet at runtime, although I dare say they could also be NFO entries.

    Does TMM make such cast entries? If not I bet there's a setting.

    Code:
    <actor>
    <name>Uma Thurman</name>
    <role>Beatrix Kiddo / The Bride / 'Black Mamba' / Mommy</role>
    <order>0</order>
    <creditId>52fe423ec3a36847f800ef93</creditId>
    <castId>1</castId>
    <thumb>http://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/lg04iEqT6TC40H1jz10Z99OFMXx.jpg</thumb>
    <uniqueid type="tmdb" default="true">139</uniqueid>
    </actor>
    
    Same with genres - these are picked up from the NFO too.

    Code:
    <genre>Action</genre>
    <genre>Crime</genre>
    <genre>Thriller</genre>
    
     
  13. Netmask

    Netmask Well-Known Member

    I have ht5 on my box it was part of the last update (68)
     
  14. Netmask

    Netmask Well-Known Member

    However so far since HT5 and using Zidoo 99% matches include everyone. Only a few obscure items seem to not always work but then I insert them manually via the web editor. Although it won’t load the images of actors and directors if you insert the names in the web editor.
     
  15. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    Ah - Sorry - I'd forgotten that - my old Z9Xs are on earlier firmware :D

    So yes, I remember when NFO refresh was first introduced there was a bug which was fixed later, but not on the 1619DRs :confused:

    It only works once - ie you can change the NFO one time, hit Metadata Refresh and it works, but any further changes are ignored.

    The workaround after the first change is this:

    1. Remove NFO file from directory
    2. Hit Metadata Refresh
    3. Replace NFO file in directory with required changes
    4. Hit Metadata Refresh again


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  16. Atari1971

    Atari1971 Member

    Does anyone know where the HT5 database is on the UHD 3000 Pro?
     
  17. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    Not accessible to users, but you can get a copy by creating a backup and unzipping it (it's a basic zip file with a .ztb extension). The database is inside and can be opened with SQLite.
     
  18. Atari1971

    Atari1971 Member

    Thanks. I just tried to modify the database from the .ztb file. I tried to restore it after the change was made, but the app gives me an error "An error occurred during the restoration."
     
  19. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    I just tried it and it worked ok...

    Just unzipped, edited a field in the MOVIE_INFO table, committed, rezipped and restored:

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  20. Markswift2003

    Markswift2003 Well-Known Member SUPER Administrator Zidoo Beta Tester Contributor

    But I think the answer lies in getting the NFOs right rather than fiddling with the database as that's not really practical as an ongoing solution.
     

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