DMP-A6 and 6ch HDMI out experience

Apart from the 3 different statements, can you possibly write sown what the REAL issues are? DSD => PCM conversion seems to be unavoidable, if you want to use Audissey, so what the problem with the TAGS really is?

 

why should i write about issues? you don't want me to pass on good news?

People state they cant get dts to work and don't even talk recent dts formats. So i state my finding when it comes to the 6 channel hdmi output experience.
Dts seem to work just fine, if you allow it to pass as pcm.

You want me to state issues:
6 channels is a huge limitation! it nowhere near the standard capabilities of hdmi. 6 is a non standard channel amount. From hdmi 1.0 the limit is 8.
And the other issue is taging of dts files. But that is not within the scope of this topic

 

Uh, sorry then.
DSD => PCM should always work
DSF files ALLOW tagging them with id3v2 tags
DFF files, otoh, DO NOT (the format is not meant to have tagging, so use DSF instead - it is the very same thing)
Channel format / limit is not an issue, nor a mandatory thing. The fact that you CAN have channels, does not mean that music with only 6 (5 + 1 = Fl, C, Fr, Sl, Sr, LFE) is non standard. It only means there were no more channels.

Apart from these technical details, I am glad that you do not complain in having DSD converted to PCM. It is what your DAC would be doing anyway, if it supported native DSD.
I myself always reconvert DSD to PCM (to avoid the resource consuming on-the-fly conversion) to 96kHz (and sometimes even down to 44.1...), as the result to my ears is the same, but I save up to 80% of disc space...

 

Well if I feed 7.1 into the dmp-a6 it is downmixed .
It is not outputting the rear channels .
The dmp-a6 gen 2 is limiting the original channel count.
This is not just a theoretical difference .

 

It's apparent you have no clue about the DMP-A6 and the number of channels it can output with HDMI. The below bolded text is from the "Specs" tab on the DMP-A6 product page. So the DMP-A6 is not limiting anything. It can only do 5.1 so the DMP-A6 is within it's specs. I knew this before I even bought my first DMP-A6.

HDMI Audio Output: DSD64 Native multi-channel/PCM192KHz multichannel raw output(Up to 5.1)

As I suggested to you in another thread read up on the DMP-A6 so you will not be totally clueless as to it's capabilities. Below is a link to the DMP-A6's product page.

https://www.eversolo.com/Product/spec/model/DMP-A6/target/7abWHw++oHhKKmVViAFMcQ==.html

 

I Have no clue WHY this limitation is there.
So i keep wondering: 6?

 

The reason why may not be your concern. The manufacturer so decided and engineered the device (may some constraints with the chips involved?)
And yes, 6 (5 + 1) is what you can get out of it, as per specification.

 

Shure it is, it is my machine. I wanna know.

Sure but is it limited by the chips used? Or is it just an old lib that can be updated. (the zidoo have a limit of 8)

6 could be a arbitrary number based on the DSD mch focus.
Just like the 'spec' max 4TB nvme. Were the spec is based on the size of the platter of a 4TB nvme. (at the time of the relase) With in a few years this platter will hold 12TB. Now it is 8TB.
Is the limit 2280 or is it 4TB?
Eversolo acknowledge the 8TB limit instead of the spec 4TB

If specifications can be this fluid, focusing on old specs isn't really helping eversolo reaching it's potential!

 

IIRC I read somewhere the 6 channel limit is a hardware / design limitation at least with the Gen1 models when another forum member was asking about ATMOS support many moons ago.
I stand corrected if my recollection is wrong.

 

I understand your interest in explanations, but as for now you simply can accept these published limitations and keep the A6 or you have to look for another device not showing these.
What's the real issue here? Your frustration or the A6 as it is?
Imagine two cars from the same maker. One says 132hp, the other 164hp. The customer has no idea what's the limiting factor here. Is it important to know? Guess not. Just accept these published limitations.
BTW, don't expect such basic limitations to be changed in a device.

 

If you really "wanna know" do some research. Or do you expect everyone else to do the research for you?

Once again do the research. Zidoo is a video based where Eversolo is audio based. Or did you not know that?

Could be? Really... the answer is very simple.

You ever think Eversolo decided to list 4TB as the limit due to added heat larger SSDs could cause? I don't know the answer to that but I'm fine with 4TB SSD for now.

Several specs are as you say are "fluid". The number of multichannel channels and SSD size limits are not limiting my two DMP-A6s in the least. Why not look for another streamer that will live up to your expectations.

 

@Bill Mac
It's like teaching a donkey to shoot with a rifle: not only you waste your time. You also irritate the donkey.

 

You are 100% correct. I should know better… what was I thinking. I would add that it’d be an insult to donkeys around the world.

 

I'm happy with 6 channels on the A6.
Name me one other brand that even has multi channel outputs.

 

Many universal media players do 6 channels (mostly also Atmos) including 5.1 native DSD on some models.
My Egreat A10/A11 players of many many years ago already played SACD ISO in 2/6 channels via HDMI. Today Zidoo and Dune players can be purchased with MCH via HDMI.

 

exaSound

exaSound Audio Design > Products > s88 Streaming DAC

 

True, but they use their video player to play them. Because of this, their music library functionality doesnt work correctly

 

My Oppo Blu ray also does multi channel...Duuuh
In talking about music streamers...WiiM, Blue sound, Rose, Cambridge, Naim.... none of them do multichannel out.

 

Looking into it now!
nevermind no HDMI output.
Sorry but my 7.1 analog input does not support Audyssey
and the AVR (Marantz AV20) that i'm looking into has no analog inputs.

 

Indeed those don't but the current Zidoo line of players use the same Music player as the Eversolo does, functionality runs slightly behind with updates but is further wise identical.
Next to that all video formats are played too so your BD music based albums (BD Audio Only, BD Concert) including e.g. Atmos will play too. Obviously they miss the front panel display and use the TV output instead.