Apple Music (sideload) - but no higher quality audio

Hi everyone,

Two days ago, I bought this amazing machine with the intention of using Apple Music and enjoying the highest possible audio quality (I'm not here to debate whether that quality is truly the best). To do so, I sideloaded the Apple Music app to access the higher-resolution streaming options.

On various forums and YouTube videos, I’ve seen many people using this method. They go into the hamburger menu, select a higher resolution under “Audio Quality,” and enjoy higher-quality sound.

But of course, for me, things don’t go as smoothly. I have no idea why. As you can see in the attached photos, I’m selecting the correct audio quality, but the app simply doesn’t apply or output it. What should’ve been an amazing first experience is quickly turning into frustration and anger, because it feels like I’ve tried everything.

I’ve done two factory resets, reinstalled the app, and checked all the relevant settings on the Eversolo itself — but nothing helps.

I even considered switching to Tidal or Qobuz, but Tidal doesn’t let you play any songs on a trial subscription. Thoughtful, right?

Please help!!!

 

Hello lazarus, I run an Apple Music subscription, and from viewing your photographs that is exactly their precise way that my screens appear
And you did in fact pick out or enter the proper settings from viewing your pics , the only thing that I can think of, I’m sure you’re aware
Perhaps not not all of those songs that you see for play that are naturally available are in Hi-Rez , even though all your settings appear to be correct
There are quite a few songs that I found out myself that no matter what it is lossless Apple Music, but again a good deal with them
Will not play in 24, 192 actually there are quite a few different albums and songs that I loaded exactly the way you did, but unfortunately
You are not available in Hi-Rez just what Apple cause Apple lossless which I believe is a version of bit perfect may someone correct me if I’m wrong?

I am not an expert in this particular area , there is one album or song that I know a few people just use as a test album just to verify
that they are receiving the highest resolution possible, which would be the Neil Young harvest album, I believe most of his material
Not all but a great deal of all his music is in high Rez, like I stated, I found quite a few high Rez songs and read out
But there are a great deal with them that are only 44 or 48, I do not know if this is your whole problem, I don’t believe you, Eversolo
UNIT would be at full. I think it would end up more on Apple Music as they are supplying the source material, But check all your settings on your unit
If you have already performed all of this and it’s entirety, I would call Apple Music as a matter of fact I had just talked to Apple about a
Storage matter with the library of songs, What it happened I was downloading too many, The program was starving for space
Apple did rectify my problem and told me what the problem was and even stayed on the phone with me until I follow through
On their recommendation and got straightened out, This is all also somewhat new to me. I have a very lot of hiring equipment
I run a lot of tube gear, but my end of High End Audio was mainly all analog, also digital, but always use the high-end CD transport only
With different external dacs, I’ve have and I had very little experience with ripping CDs and streaming music other than
me and an old friend of mine used to rip CDs to a computer back in the late 1980s that was nothing new, but the streaming part of it was
I hope that this may rectify part of your problem, but like I said again, a lot of these songs irregardless or not in Hi-Rez at one time from what I understand
Very few of them were it has gotten a lot better according to one source of mine that’s been into this sort of thing for quite some time
But good luck to you and enjoy the music, By the way, from what I was told by a few guys that are really been into this for a while
That Apple Music is OK for the basic person, but it is definitely not the last word in quality streaming, especially Overall sound quality
So I have been told by guys that I have been doing this for quite some time

NOTE/ The EOS , has nothing to do with it been there done that if the song is not available in Hi-Rez, you get what you get, I had thought of the EOS setting myself absolutely made no difference. Either way good thought however, I just figured I would let you know. …

 

Hotel California on the Eagles is a 24-bit 192kHz sound source. Try playing it to see if it's playing at 24bit 192kHz on the EverSolo body. If it doesn't play at 24bit 192kHz, it's likely that you've left the EOS engine option off in the EverSolo body setup. And not all of Apple Music's sound sources are 24bit 44.1 or 48kHz, most of which are not 24-bit 96 or 192.

https://music.apple.com/kr/album/hotel-california/635770200?i=635770202

 

@LazarusTaxon,
Looking at the screens you posted, the settings look correct and like Biamp300B, Neil Young's Harvest is my reference title to test in order to make sure the settings on the integrated Apple Music app are correct. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but other than what's been posted, are you using the Eversolo Control app to navigate to the Apps menu and NOT the Streaming menu? Otherwise you'll only be using the installed app and you won't get High Res.

 

I did not even consider that, automatically just took it for granite as this is the way I activate or employee ,the app…
TONE DEAF, IS 100% absolutely correct, on top of his game, I like that. … ;-} ✌️

 

Hey all, I had a A8 but sold it because I already had a Bryston DAC. A8 is a very good device for its price point.
Never had any problems playing Apple Music HiRes. Hotel California was my go to 24/192 tune. You installed the APP logged in and don't remember logging as the service, believe it limited you to 16bit44khz.
I bought a A6 gen2 on release because my main use for it was as a Streamer and to use Apple Music again. Had been using Qobuz but subscription is coming up due and while the sound on Qobuz is at times better, miss the playlists and early release music on AM. With Roon and 70000 tunes at least CD-Quality or better know A6, Roon, Bryston DAC, can do 24/192 and DSD 256 no problem. Highest bit rate I own or have created from albums.
So the only way I can get get AM to play HiRes is by going to device and selecting the app folder and opening Apple Music in there. You can also do this from phone or tablet app by going to Screen, App Folder and open AM app. Still best I can get is 24/48.
Believe its the new app interface on my phone or iPad. Pun intended because there doesn't seem to be a way to open AM app directly from an App folder on remote IOS app. (only Android I use is TV's and still use Apple TV's instead of built in stuff.)

Used to be I could see the bitrate from Apple music ios app on my phone but that doesn't seem possible either so maybe the change is Apple.

Music I have noticed 24/48 behaviour with:
Eagles Hotel California, Eric Clapton the lady in the balcony (24/48 AM VS 24/96 Qobuz), honestly using the screen interface made me loose interest pretty quickly. On iPhone 15 max I can't hit the space bar while typing in screen mode either, space bar is missing or hidden.
As far as hearing the deference between Qobuz and AM Eric Clapton night and day.
Incredible recording done live but in a studio setup watch youtube video for Layla.

To Facebook people I said AM plays hires fine to forgive me there does seem to be a problem Eversolo.

I did install latest Eversolo Firmware version 1.5.05 same behaviour, back to the music.
My Bryston DAC displays bitrate with a light. I also switched the remote app to old interface and app folder is missing. Can it be put back?

 

A typical fallacy. Just because something is more expensive, doesn’t mean it’s better. Our brain is just tricking us into thinking that it must be better, because it was more expensive.

 

I have slowly saved up for this gear over 25 years. Heard upgrades as I went. One of first things I did was have my hearing checked having spent first 10 years of my career in construction trade. Of the 10-12 people who have heard the gear over that time 2 that could never hear difference. Turns out their hearing was so bad they could not hear difference between AM radio and FM radio.

So tired of people who make uninformed comments that are completely off topic. Your ASR guy wouldn’t know a scope from a volt meter.

You a flat earth guy too?

 

You also can’t remain subjective and even polite in your ranting. Guess my dog’s reactions to directional queues in the main listening room are also not relevant. Figments of their imagination.
Little hung over today? Hope you don’t talk to your wife and kids like that.

Back to facts my step dad worked as a heavy equipment operator most of his career loves his new hearing aids. See they are able to test what frequencies he can and can’t hear and amplify what he can’t hear. We put on one of his records that are in my collection he just smiled ear to ear and indicated for me to turn it up. Took my dogs for a walk their ears are more sensitive but sure you don’t believe that either.

The best part about forums for guys like you is you can skittle off like a rat into some dark corner when done. feeling proud about the abuse you provided people who are trying to report a problem and just put into context why they can hear what they hear.

Go create a new post I will happily join letting you get your jollies by calling me names. Maybe prevent you from bashing people who might be affected by it. Meanwhile leave this post to people trying to work on a fix for a problem we are having.

Learn to use big boy words. Maybe sober up before you give yourself a heart attack.

Its called blind folded listening tests having someone else switch between sources seeing if you can hear the differences. You should try it sometime, might learn something.

 

support.apple.com/en-ca/118295

Official post by Apple on Apple Music Lossless Bitrates on different devices. Note the section on Android devices.

How to turn lossless on or off

1. Open the Apple Music app.
2. At the top, click Sidebar Actions, then click Settings.
   
   
3. Click Playback.
   
   
4. Under Audio Quality, turn Lossless audio on or off. From here, you can choose the audio quality for streaming and downloading audio.
   • Lossless for a maximum resolution of 24-bit/48 kHz
     
     
   • Hi-Res Lossless for a maximum resolution of 24-bit/192 kHz

Under WiFi streaming I had selected Lossless vs Hi-res Lossless so can do 24/192 again (reading glasses).

Eversolo would love to have Apps folder back in Remote IOS app without having to use Screen to listen to Apple Music App.

I can no longer hear the difference with Eric Clapton The Lady in the Balcony 24/96 Apple Music VS 24/96 Qobuz (guess the down conversion on Apple Music app isn't great for me to hear such a difference, usually different Hires bit rates are really hard for me to tell apart with my gear, to me Lossless sounded more like MP3 quality sorry AAC in the Apple world)
Qobuz is the service on A6 and Apple Music app is being used on A6 from Apps folder using screen.
What I did was sign out of all on A6 then only signed back into Apple Music app. This way when you click on Apple Music service vs Apple Music app you get authorization prompt just ignore it.

Now I have to wonder maybe I am missing how to create a shortcut to the Apple Music app on the Remote app?

Have a great weekend.

FYI I am not allowed to post links yet so just add https, colon, forward slash, forward slash to first line to confirm some facts on this matter.

Another work around if affected by keyboard not showing space bar is go on apple music on your IOS device find music listen to track then it will appear under recently listened to on Apple Music App on A6.

 

If you can hear a difference between the Qobuz 24/96 and the AppleMusic 24/96, that means one and one thing only: the recordings are not the same (apart from the fact that your ears are in mint condition, of course).

 

sorry I wasn’t clear I could hear the difference before I changed the setting from Lossless to HiRes Lossless. So suspected the down conversion process was not actually to 24/48 but AAC quality. The sub wasn’t actually hitting on low notes. No way of knowing for sure.
Definitely not a problem now that both are 24/96.

An example of something that sounds better on Qobuz vs HiRes purchased online is Tool Opiate.
The downloaded files have a harder edge to them vs streaming on Qobuz. There is more fine detail, better nuances.

Did you go to FPHS?

 

It is a true mystery to me, ho could streamed music and the equivalent downloaded file sound different... I mean, sooo different.

what is that?

 

A high school same name and similar profile picture as an old friend coincidence.
Bought from HDTracks try for yourself.

Listened to Apple Music app most of afternoon have seen 44k, 96k, 192k as long as Apple Music app stays visible in display on A6, lossless hires is fine. Does cut off every song at 1 to 5 seconds early. Turning of gapless playback in settings on A6 makes it worse by a couple of seconds. You see this in Roon when improper metadata is used. No idea whats going on here.

I’ll stick to Qobuz.
Thought not sure its an Apple problem.

enjoy music

 

Sticks and stones will break my bones but nothing you say can burt me.

You are the person that became involved in a technical thread with nothing to offer but condescending insults.

Please prove you can even own an eversolo device.
You seem like a spoiled bratty child. If I had mental problems the polite rational thing to do would be to leave me alone. Talking to me the way you do could cause me to hurt others or myself. Guess what that shows about you.

We 10 have a bet going that you won’t stop. Your behaviour is appalling in these forums. As mentioned if you have a friend blindfold yourself and do some listening tests. Have your helper switch sources seeing if you can can actually hear the difference.
Enjoy your Sunday, go hug someone sounds like you need some love.

 

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I don't see any issue with your Apple settings. Looks good for me. Your first picture shows 24bit/44.1Hz. Your third pixture shows 44.1Hz This is OK.

 

I don’t know guys, I just turned on my A8 as it has been off for about a week due to using other devices, units ect. I tried my test song on the A8 ,
using Apple Music app, works as advertised,. Neil Young harvest album, Hi-Res Lossless, settings show. 24-bit/192 kHz ALAC ,
Showing version, 4.9.6.1 ( 1450 ) I checked old screenshot identical nothing’s changed,. IDK if this is still the current version,
I have no clue,, been listening more to Internet radio just for background music more than anything for the time being,
Concentrating on getting listening room finished yup before you know it’ll be cold out again and I don’t move that fast anymore ;-)
Just kind of found this post taking a coffee break,, everything appears normal/ same ??
Sounds great …

 

Last Apple music app sideloaded version is 4.9.7.2

 

Hey ok thanks for the info I appreciate, did you really hear any differences ? Seriously IDK, haven’t been using it much , ;-}
Never had any problems with it ? It’s
ok, I like the Selection,
took a peek, just looks like minor tweaks, IDK ?
Good day to ya …

 

No, I don't hear any difference