Apple Music in Hi-Res Lossless ?

Discussion in 'Eversolo T8' started by TomTT, Oct 23, 2025.

  1. TomTT

    TomTT Member

    Is T8 able to play Hi-Res Lossless in Apple Music ?
     
  2. EddNog

    EddNog Active Member

    Yes by sideloading Apple’s own Music app. Eversolo’s native (landscape) app won’t do it, you must use Apple’s own (portrait) app.

    -Ed
     
  3. WDitters

    WDitters Active Member Eversolo Beta Tester

    This by the way is due to Apple restrictions. They only officially allow their own Apple Music application to play Hi-Res lossless. There are no third-party apps that have that same privilege, and that includes streamer UIs like the one from Eversolo.
     
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  4. TomTT

    TomTT Member

    Thanks, Ed. But I am not quite sure what you meant by "sideloading Apple's own Music app."

    I use iPad. Do you mean Apple's own Music app ? Yes, Apple's own Music app can play lossless music, and not just in portrait mode but in landscape mode as well.

    But how can it send lossless music to T8 ? Via AirPlay ? I don't see AirPlay sends lossless music to T8.

    Sorry, I don't quite follow your instruction.

    BTW, I found via the "Apple Music" app under T8's APPs section in landscape mode (not in portrait), lossless music can be played (see images below). Is this the "Apple Music app" that you are referring to ?

    AppleMusic01.jpg

    AppleMusic02.jpg
     
  5. EddNog

    EddNog Active Member

    Yes, the Apple Music app (musical note icon) under Apps on the T8 is what I meant, sorry for the confusion. This is separate and distinct from Eversolo’s Apple Music app, which has an Apple icon instead.

    -Ed
     
  6. TomTT

    TomTT Member

    Got it. Thank you very much.
     
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  7. macnet427

    macnet427 Member

    You’ll never want to use AirPlay again!
     
  8. TomTT

    TomTT Member

    Certainly, except when I steam music from my phone.
    Glad to see you here HiFi Rose friend.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2025
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  9. j2j

    j2j Member

    previously it need to put on by user (Apple Music apk)
     
  10. macnet427

    macnet427 Member

    I have to use AirPlay only if I try to stream from YouTube Music. I tried installing the YouTube Music APK on my Eversolo following some of the directions online. I only ended up infecting the browser on my PC as I was warned by my antivirus software and ignored it! LOL

    Great to see a HiFi Rose friend on here as well. I espcially don't miss all the frustration with the HiFi Rose app. I'm too old to be always be waiting for software fixes for new bugs being discovered. Haven't experienced any issues with my Eversolo purchases as I also have the A8 and A10.
     
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  11. TomTT

    TomTT Member

    Great minds think alike ;);)
     
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  12. hm42

    hm42 New Member

    Hi, sorry to say but this is NOT working.
    I got my Eversolo T8 yesterday and spent the whole evening trying to get hi-res working. I've now isolated the problem:

    Sideloaded APK apple music app (from apkpure) installs fine, but plays only up to 24/96 streams from apple music. 192k streams play as 24/48.
    There's no way to change this in the user interface. It seems to be a limitation on how Eversolo handles the android apps which do NOT use the the EOS feature in Eversolo. The sideloaded apps do not use it, only the preinstalled apps do. Thus all sideloaded apps are capped / downsampled to 48 or 96k.

    If there is an EOS compatible apple music app build somewhere please let me know, that would solve the issue.
     
  13. EddNog

    EddNog Active Member

    Well, 96KHz is still better than 48KHz anyway. If it’s really that huge of a problem, switch to Qobuz (I did.). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    -Ed
     
  14. WDitters

    WDitters Active Member Eversolo Beta Tester

    Agreed, in the sense that this is more an Apple issue than an Eversolo issue. Apple is keen on restricting as much as possible the use of Hi-Res playback on non-Apple devices .. Unless as audio equipment manufacturer you are willing to pay extra to Apple ... I have seen the same happening with Astell&Kern when they wanted to enable Apple Music on their music players.

    Note: This is unconfirmed, but my gut feeling says that Eversolo EOS is nothing different from what other Android applications do (Usb Audio Player Pro, Neutron etc) and that is circumventing the standard Android audio layer that is capped at 16bit and introduce an alternative Hi-Res driver that aplications can use.

    They just market it in their own way by naming it the fancy EOS functionality .. But basicially it does the same as the others do ... It introduces an alternative Hi-Res driver and allows every app to use it, instead of the 16bit driver, nothing more. Apple Music also can make use of that. And there's APIs for that. If it doesn't work then Apple needs to fix that. All that Eversolo does is open the door ..

    And my guess is that Apple is not in the least bothered by this, or even interested. Or they would have allowed Eversolo to build Apple Music support into their own UI ...
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2025
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  15. macnet427

    macnet427 Member

    Are you doing this in the Eversolo app or in the Apple Android app? I had to do it in the account settings in the sideloaded app for Apple. I know I've seen 96k on one of the Lana Del Rey albums.
     
  16. EddNog

    EddNog Active Member

    Apple’s own app in the App section with the musical note icon, as opposed to Eversolo’s app with the apple icon.

    -Ed
     
  17. hm42

    hm42 New Member

    Apple android app, sideloaded. It goes to 96khz but not higher. 192khz songs are downscaled to 48.
     
  18. macnet427

    macnet427 Member

    Thanks for letting me know. That is so annoying when they do that. I often purchase downloads from Qobuz and while an album may play from Qobuz on at 24 bit/96 khz, the purchased copy is 24 bit/44.1 khz. I think I've had the best download experience with Bandcamp but get dinged with foreign transaction fees since I'm in the US. Sometimes, they have music that I can't find anywhere else.

    I bet Apple does this on purpose. I don't listen all that much but for some reason, I keep renewing my subscription annually. They do have a better algorythm for finding new music to listen to than Roon.
     
  19. hm42

    hm42 New Member


    Agree with the EOS branding. I'm still somewhat wondering - if the Apple Airplay API is limited to 16/44.1 or 48, why is Eversolo still able to provide 96kHz through Android App? It shouldn't be using the Apple API, so this must be an Android limit? Meaning it's not Apple limitation any more but Android app?
     
  20. hm42

    hm42 New Member


    This case I dont think it's Apple doing this (directly). It's the Android ecosystem and more precisaely T8's implementation.
    T8’s “Android Mode” audio path isn’t bit-perfect. Even though the T8 runs Android and lets you sideload apps, the system doesn’t give those apps direct USB audio access. Instead, the app’s output passes through Android’s AudioFlinger / system mixer, which limits rates to 96 kHz. → Apple Music requests 24/192, Android resamples it to 24/48 (not even 24/96), then sends it to DAC.

    Meaning it's something Eversolo could and should fix.
    Of course Apple could solve it as well with better API specs, but on this case other companies have solved the problem in native Android environent without Apples support.

    I've had DAPs running Android (for example from Fiio) that are able to output 192kHz audio from an Apple Music Android app. They most certainly do not have access to a better Apple API. Instead they've found a way to get their version of "EOS" to work better with the stock Android apps.

    And I hope Eversolo would do this as well.
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2025

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