That's your choice, so the only one to blame it upon will be yourself. Everybody is responsible for his own decisions, and I am definitely not stopping you from taking yours.
Hello, I need some help for gain matching with my amplifier. I do not want to buy a pre-amp and have a rotel 1552 mk2 driving my Kef R3 meta. I’m happy with my amplifier. This one has a max power of 185W at 4 ohms with specified RCA gain of 26.5 and XLR gain of 22.5. Kef R3 recommended amplifier is 15-180W - For what I understand, 180W in 4ohms is 26.83V (P=U*U/R). - 26.83V out with 26.5 (RCA) gain is 1.25V in - 26.83V out with 22.5 (XLR) gain is 2V in I read A8 output is 2.1V for RCA and 4.2 for XLR. Is it ok to use the A8 without external pre-amps for digital sources (streaming and HDMI) ? In this case, which connection is the best RCA or XLR? Regards
Keith, 100% serious. I know you’re a salesman. OK let’s just forget about that and put that aside for the time being but what I cannot understand ? And absolutely Really irritate and agitate me almost every time I get on this fourm, and come across most of your post in which you are absolutely entitled to Your own opinion just like everybody, BUT WHY DO YOU Continue misinformed people without information along with other specifications That are not simply true, unless we have very different bench, testing equipment or perhaps may be totally out of calibration, in which we checked And even recalibrate several times in order to just give the benefit of the doubt. Now you absolutely certainly know better than to tell or informed a member on this fourm , example like the above person or gentlemen that you had replied back to was very inaccurate information again, as usual, you absolutely and certainly know that , the eversolo A8, Absolutely without question does not put out anywhere near your said, stated that you swear by 4.20. / 4.2 XLR OUTPUT GAIN, however I do like that XLR OUTPUT , and with all your professional knowledge, you absolutely know quite Well that type of output is what we used to call commercial grade , as far as I know please correct me if I’m wrong I am always willing to learn, Then you will have where I am going to call a consumer grade output, which is approximately 1/2 of commercial grade output for live bands And stage performances, live events, and those types of specific situations, but I can absolutely tell you this. I wish my Eversolo was putting out 4.2 V on the XLR outputs only left and right, as I most certainly could use the extra gain, I just cannot comprehend why you continue to Post situations of output gain and other specifications that are simply not true not available. Don’t do it inaccurate and not correct I am not being facetious or condescending. I just don’t know where you have a problem or where your problem they lie, with being honest it has nothing to do with our lack of knowledge of specifications and output in which that will be your first excuse, but there are a total of 3 Gentlemen, here that understand my situation, in lieu of your forum, replies, answers, and conversation, are these specifications Something that you’re just reading off of as per somebody else’s work or measurements we really would like to know Seriously,, Very truly yours thank you, Please do not post an idiotic explanation. Seriously, thanks again. Have a nice weekend, Absolutely no pun intended the above statement was not in any way to criticize belittle or humiliate anyone. It is strictly of a serious nature as I repeat we are at all we cannot figure out or comprehend again where in the world did these specifications come from? Again, we are just taking it that you must be implying someone else’s measurements and readings again I apologize. We are no way trying to be offensive or misleading. Towards anyone
If only you would try and learn something before you post your inane posts. Note the voltage at which Amir tested the A8. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...lo-dmp-a8-balanced-streamer-dac-review.55826/ Keith
Thank you Keith. That’s what we thought you were going off of someone else’s say so measurements testing and evaluation, I’m sure you must have some type of testing Facilities, or use of at your disposal, do you think it may be possible if not be at yourself you could actually sit down with a tech, and actually see and read you’re above stated comment on XLR output, if you have use or availability to such a simple piece of equipment, I honestly believe, an actuality You would 100% absolutely, being enlightened your own self as to what the actual reading really are, we have two Eversolo A8’s and one A6, I personally own a , A8, the other two gentlemen owns the other A8 and the other, the A6, and with all three units, we seriously cannot arrive Anywhere near the output specification that you state, If you wish we can send you screenshots, Being totally serious I have no problem with that it would be nice. Let’s see if we can clear this up and rectify this once and for all, but thank you for your post and your time and concern And your opinion which you are duly entitled to, if you want to go off someone else’s measurements that’s up to you we take measurements of our own equipment, this measurement is only a simple nature of, there is nothing really technically complicated about doing it Or performing it and receiving accurate measurements, But I support your opinion you are entitled to your own beliefs thank you, but however, in the foreseeable future, please do not post or STATE in accurate information and inconsistencies to these folks it’s just not correct and it’s not good business thanks again
You believe Amir is lying, because you ( without any form of measurement equipment) ‘know’ that the output is less than the manufacturer specifies even though Amir’s measurements confirm the manufacturer’s specification. Too idiotic for words. Keith
Keith no one is accusing, implying, or insinuating that anyone is lying about anything, or we are simply stating and cannot comprehend or seem to figure out Why these three Eversolo units, do not put out anywhere near 4.2v as you so STATE so again giving the benefit of the doubt there is something radically wrong With our bench, testing equipment or something wrong on the other end, over the weekend let’s find out for sure I will supply you all the information That are accurate factual read outs, I will even go as far to say due to nothing being impossible. Maybe there are electrical differences or deviations in our 120 vac , supplied current and comparison do I believe the 220 that you guys are using over there, this is of a true and serious nature Why in the world would someone simply spend this much time and repetitiously keep testing three separate totally different units and basically Coming up with the same results, with very inconsistent and accuracies compared to yours just something we can’t understand Unless somebody sneaking in in the middle of the night throwing everything off calibration we seriously can’t figure it out but again thank you
Keith please s*** u* you are not helping. Are you using the A8 by yourself? Many people confirmed that the digital attenuation of the A8 is the main issue. You can reach a certain volume level with the A8, which might be too low in many setups and situations. I guess it has a good reason that Eversolo is developing the T8 as pure transport without any preamp or volume functionality. Really looking forward to it.
Just too stupid, manufacturer states 2.1/4.2 the unit measures 2.1/4.2 yet you two without any evidence state otherwise. Keith
Keith, it’s not a point of what the manufacturer supplies are stipulates I’m telling you along with screenshots that I’m sending you from an electrical workbench, professional bench that three Eversolo units are not outputting 4.2v on the XLR OUTPUT, and by the way, this has been addressed on this forum countless times so don’t go. You don’t go calling people names. You’re just trying to sell equipment. I mean, I used to sell equipment. I could appreciate where you’re coming from just saying be honest I don’t know where you’re getting that measurements at and tell Amir he better check his workbench what’s his final word come from God get the hell out of here you’re a Nuttball, I tried to be nice and you get your panties in a knot calm down. They’re coming out with other equipment. You’re not gonna lose his sale. I’m saying just be honest what you gotta lie for. Damn, are you that hard up for money? I’ll send you a few bucks. Give me an address seriously There you go you got your own self indicted on that one I even offered to send you live screenshots and yet you’ll still go on about equipment do me a favor. Don’t bother me no more go try to sell something to some poor guy. I don’t know any better. It’s just a damn shame.
By the way, you can basically get away with just using a fluke multimeter, but you don’t even know what you’re talking about there. You still need an input source like a signal generator go have an open box sale or something. Leave me alone. I just voided you off the list you’re a box pusher You just showed everyone that I just deleted you like a bad habit. Simpleton Amir, who the hell is Amir some electrical God you and Amir go have a sidewalk sale. This is the worst form I’ve ever been on. That’s why the older guys stay off of them. Common Sense , thank goodness you live on the other side of the pond with a numb skull
Like my good buddy just said sitting over here one will , Lie and The other will swear to it, What a fourm , crazy greedy, ignorant people , shame , IDK ;-( I am very happy. There are some folks that can see right through this., The above post that I left on this forum just received 8 likes , How many did you get if you can be honest, some people have a hard time doing that I don’t know why ???? I’m done Best of luck everyone over and out , ✌️ Watch out for the tunnel rats
Level matching for fun! If you really want to impartially compare two audio products, there are two conditions that must be fulfilled, you really shouldn't know which component you are listening to ,so the comparison should be un-sighted. The second is the outputs of both devices should be level-matched to within .1dB. Your brain hears something louder and most always assumes louder equals better. I would like to thank Serge Auckland for all of his technical assistance, he recommended a voltmeter with the correct range, which would be suitable for my purpose. The meter used is a REK RVT-322 available for around £100 from Ebay. It is a dual channel unit which is useful,with a wide range of voltages/dB . Methodology is to supply a steady state tone to the dacs being 'matched' Serge suggested 440Hz,I used the Sine wave generator application of REW software. Macbook connected via USB to both dac units, measurements taken from pins 2 and 3 on the XLR outputs of both dacs, volume adjusted until both have the same output. Keith
with all due respect and integrity, From reading some of your forum posts very good ask questions that’s the only way you’re gonna learn. That’s when anybody anywhere about anything, but the way I have interpreted it some of them I don’t really think you have any idea as to what you’re doing. I do not mean that’s facetiously. I’m only telling you the way I read it , I know my post can be somewhat confusing because this is all text talk and I know it does not come across perfectly but with a little common sense and effort, the average person can usually pick their way through it but yes, absolutely don’t get rid of that unit best of luck sorry about that go back and read your post for May 27 of this year on down. Read the whole page thoroughly all the way down then I do believe you’ll see somewhat of what I’m trying to say to you. The more I read your script the more crazier it sounds. I apologize I didn’t really thoroughly read your one statement. What are you talking about? They both match that’s exactly what I’m talking about. They’re not supposed to match the RCA output output from the unit is not supposed to match the XLR output from the unit the same unit not a different unit. They are not supposed to match. You should get two different readings. RCA should be lower voltage gain output, which is for the hundredth time consumer level XLR output should be approximately 4.2 or so in that vicinity as it has a higher gain level output structure it is commercial grade XLRand RCA will play the same music and do the same thing but they are two different gain levels. RCA IS Consumer level , They are not supposed to match. Oh man go find something to do. I’m sorry, brother but this is nuts. I don’t know whether you’re an AI or what’s going on or maybe a friend of that air head across the pond I don’t know very weird. Very weird PLEASE READ/ A8 Volume issue< by MARKD ,JUN 10th 2025, Page 18 . I suppose he also has no idea what he’s talking about, You have to go back and read or is it just laziness?
I just deleted an entire post. This is a bunch of craziness that’s just not even worth talking about anymore. Anyone interested? Please refer back to numerous numerous pages of posts on this gain output subject I know what it is my two older buddies know what it is there’s a few other people that know what’s going on so I’ll tell you what my man go ask Keith if he’s not there ask for AMIRE or whatever his name is , I’ll explain everything to you and explicit detail. Good luck because you’re gonna need it Just keep in mind that when you do come across where people have got to a point of such frustration with gain that is not much more than a passive ramp output wise learn from that I’m tired of talking if he indeed sells High End Audio equipment. He can’t be that dense so in other words you got it he’s full of s—t He’s a box pusher he wants to make his 40 or 40 some percent and get out of there. That’s understandable. We all gotta make a living, but tell the truth You go ask him I’ll explain it all to you. You’ll be fine. I’ll say one thing THAT PEOPLE YOU IGNORE FEATURE, that’s a wonderful thing Eversolo implement it on this fourm, A wonderful thing thank goodness for small miracles what a relief I feel like actual weight have been lifted from my shoulders. Now there’s a couple more that I’d like to be put on there and it be damn near perfect beautiful thing.
hello , just figured I would save you the time in trouble you seem like you’re OK, The 4.2 is totally bogus, Read page 18, June 10, 2025, Unless you have extremely sensitive loudspeakers, let’s say something along the order of KLIPSCH that are at least 100 spl per one watt 1 m sensitivity, we’ve been playing around with these units for over a year. I don’t mean to be condescending or facetious but regardless of what some of these other clowns tell you especially the audio dealers you’re absolutely going to need a preamp believe me if you don’t try it or an extremely sensitive amplifier or both do you ever sell is a wonderful unit but a preamplifier is not like I said this section read back to June 10 very vivid technical description self-explanatory I believe all your questions will be answered. Just happened to see the post myself. I’m tired of talking about it. It seemed like you put out an OK post. Just figured I’d give you a heads up. Have a nice weekend. I noticed on this forum people only like to read what’s in front of them. You can’t start in the middle of the book or towards the end. Look back look back seeking you shall find.
